Melissa Korn
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822 appearances
14 recordings
1 series
first heard Sep 2017
last heard Sep 2024
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This really kind of stands on its head, the more widespread assumption that we can just attribute so much of this to family status, women getting married and having kids.
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Absolutely.
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So one of the main reasons for a gender pay gap really seems to be that men and women in certain fields go to pursue different career paths.
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So they might have studied the same thing and then take very different jobs, some of which pay more than others.
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For instance, at University of Michigan Law School, in the years that our data covered, many more men went into law firm jobs, while women were more likely than men to take jobs in public interest, so working for a public defender, a prosecutor, a nonprofit.
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The pay differential there is quite significant, so that can explain why
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You see these numbers, this differentiation by gender, if you have so many women going into one field, so many men into another.
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And some of that is because people are just pursuing a passion, right?
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They care more about a particular cause than they do about the paycheck.
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But some of it can also come from advisers
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steering them in particular directions.
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You know, they might be well-meaning when they mention, oh, well, those are long hours and, you know, you can't wear high heels in that sort of job.
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Right.
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But people internalize those nudges and you get enough of them and you might start shifting your own plans.
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We definitely can't ignore discrimination in this conversation.
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academics that we spoke with, labor economists who study the pay gap, say we're not beyond bias.
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There are likely hiring managers and people making compensation decisions who have assumptions about how women are in the workplace, how they'll be as leaders or how devoted they'll be, how aggressive they'll be in negotiating deals.
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And those biases can have a factor in whether they're hired and then whether they get promotions and salary bumps and things like that.
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So the data really shows that this is not a conversation or an issue that comes up when women are in their 30s.
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This really starts right out of the gate.
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