Meredith Whittaker

And actually creating something that is now able to scale to hundreds of millions of people means that Signal actually has a position in this ecosystem that makes it useful to people. That means that it's actually providing encrypted communication to people. people all over the globe because their friends are using it, right?

And actually creating something that is now able to scale to hundreds of millions of people means that Signal actually has a position in this ecosystem that makes it useful to people. That means that it's actually providing encrypted communication to people. people all over the globe because their friends are using it, right?

And actually creating something that is now able to scale to hundreds of millions of people means that Signal actually has a position in this ecosystem that makes it useful to people. That means that it's actually providing encrypted communication to people. people all over the globe because their friends are using it, right?

And my contention here, and I'm willing to discuss this, I don't think we can recreate Signal, right? You could shift because it has that user base, right? You can introduce a new app, but how do you get people to use it without an OEM, without an existing installed user base, without some way of kind of making it useful to people.

And my contention here, and I'm willing to discuss this, I don't think we can recreate Signal, right? You could shift because it has that user base, right? You can introduce a new app, but how do you get people to use it without an OEM, without an existing installed user base, without some way of kind of making it useful to people.

And my contention here, and I'm willing to discuss this, I don't think we can recreate Signal, right? You could shift because it has that user base, right? You can introduce a new app, but how do you get people to use it without an OEM, without an existing installed user base, without some way of kind of making it useful to people.

Because again, it's, you know, one telegram telephone or, you know, a couple thousand hackers who all use PGP, but they can't talk to their dad on PGP, right? They can't talk to anyone outside of themselves on PGP. So, you know, Signal has both sort of kept this, this form that is very heterodox in tech. It's a nonprofit. So, you know, it Yeah, absolutely. The diametric opposite is the norm.

Because again, it's, you know, one telegram telephone or, you know, a couple thousand hackers who all use PGP, but they can't talk to their dad on PGP, right? They can't talk to anyone outside of themselves on PGP. So, you know, Signal has both sort of kept this, this form that is very heterodox in tech. It's a nonprofit. So, you know, it Yeah, absolutely. The diametric opposite is the norm.

Because again, it's, you know, one telegram telephone or, you know, a couple thousand hackers who all use PGP, but they can't talk to their dad on PGP, right? They can't talk to anyone outside of themselves on PGP. So, you know, Signal has both sort of kept this, this form that is very heterodox in tech. It's a nonprofit. So, you know, it Yeah, absolutely. The diametric opposite is the norm.

That's really, really important, irrespective about the flaws of the nonprofit model more generally. So it's achieved this pretty rare, like it's the only thing like it in the ecosystem. And I think it also serves as a model for how we could think about building tech differently. Like how do we disarm technology?

That's really, really important, irrespective about the flaws of the nonprofit model more generally. So it's achieved this pretty rare, like it's the only thing like it in the ecosystem. And I think it also serves as a model for how we could think about building tech differently. Like how do we disarm technology?

That's really, really important, irrespective about the flaws of the nonprofit model more generally. So it's achieved this pretty rare, like it's the only thing like it in the ecosystem. And I think it also serves as a model for how we could think about building tech differently. Like how do we disarm technology?

deconstruct the massive centralized power of a handful of platform companies that basically control most of the infrastructure and information ecosystem in our world and our jurisdiction in the US?

deconstruct the massive centralized power of a handful of platform companies that basically control most of the infrastructure and information ecosystem in our world and our jurisdiction in the US?

deconstruct the massive centralized power of a handful of platform companies that basically control most of the infrastructure and information ecosystem in our world and our jurisdiction in the US?

And how do we build other models that may be interoperable, that are more open, that are more rights preserving, and that aren't subject to the pressures of and incentives of the surveillance business model?

And how do we build other models that may be interoperable, that are more open, that are more rights preserving, and that aren't subject to the pressures of and incentives of the surveillance business model?

And how do we build other models that may be interoperable, that are more open, that are more rights preserving, and that aren't subject to the pressures of and incentives of the surveillance business model?

Yeah. No, I, I like this question cause I'm going to, I'm, I want to clarify our position. Um, which is a, there's a little bit of nuance. Um, I don't oppose interoperability in principle. If the interoperability mandate of the DSA were... Interoperability needs to be an option, and it has to happen at this rigorous security bar.

Yeah. No, I, I like this question cause I'm going to, I'm, I want to clarify our position. Um, which is a, there's a little bit of nuance. Um, I don't oppose interoperability in principle. If the interoperability mandate of the DSA were... Interoperability needs to be an option, and it has to happen at this rigorous security bar.