Merryn Somerset Webb

I'm not sure what the degree course would be.

Maybe it doesn't exist.

There are degrees in entrepreneurship.

There are degrees in business.

There are degrees in...

education, but how we get learning and earning to coexist on a lifelong basis, I think is among the challenges of our time.

I don't know if there exists a degree for doing that right now.

Maybe we should create one.

A few years ago, a friend of mine up in Manchester created a course in creativity because, of course, contrary to popular belief, you can teach creativity.

We know quite a lot about the creative process and what is needed

And that's the level of abstract thinking I think we need.

And so something maybe around the fusion of work, business, and learning.

Because I think that's where the action's at.

Fascinating.

Thank you.

Andy, is there anything that we haven't covered, anything that is super important that neither of us has mentioned and we should before we go?

Well, the only thing I'd say, we haven't touched upon politics, which is unusual for you and me.

And I've got no desire to deep dive into politics beyond saying this.

Among the fiscal free solutions to the UK's malaise is by empowering local leaders.

We are the most centralized country on the planet.