Meryl Horne

So, like, just like the rat studies, they think it might be, like, enhancing neuroplasticity.

Yeah.

Yeah, and...

You know, we've been talking a lot about addiction, but there is also promising research on PTSD and anxiety, too.

So showing that it might help there for veterans.

Yeah, and like revisiting traumatic memories, you know, maybe it's opening up.

this like period for like a rewiring around those memories.

Yes.

But, you know, a lot of what we have right now, all these studies are looking at the short-term benefits, like right after people take this big dose of Ibogaine.

Well, so that's the big question, right?

So there actually were a bunch of studies like Alan's finding these amazing short-term results.

Yeah.

And...

That's kind of why Alan actually was doing his study was he wanted to see how long that lasted.

And, you know, the study that he was doing was actually like sometimes years after people had their trips.

So he asked them, okay, when you first took it, how did you feel?

And that's where we got that 80% figure from.

But then he was also asking, how do you feel now?

You know, one or two years later, are you still off opioids?

And so I asked him what he found.