Michael Barbaro

Even if you have the best lawyers and the law on your side and a significant portion of the country behind you, it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have success when you're fighting back against an administration that is audaciously using its power. And if there is a victory for Harvard, it will not be a clean, clear-cut thing that is resolved in court.

It will be something that will have to play out over many years, over many different court cases, and will force Harvard to come up with money or cut back on its ambitions in ways that it didn't think it would ever have to.

It will be something that will have to play out over many years, over many different court cases, and will force Harvard to come up with money or cut back on its ambitions in ways that it didn't think it would ever have to.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having me.

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Bolvaro. This is The Daily. On Tuesday, the Trump administration bypassed the traditional system of vaccine guidance and abruptly ended the government's recommendation that two key groups of Americans get vaccinated against COVID. Today, My colleague, Apoorva Mandevili, on what could be a turning point moment in public health. It's Wednesday, May 28th.

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Bolvaro. This is The Daily. On Tuesday, the Trump administration bypassed the traditional system of vaccine guidance and abruptly ended the government's recommendation that two key groups of Americans get vaccinated against COVID. Today, My colleague, Apoorva Mandevili, on what could be a turning point moment in public health. It's Wednesday, May 28th.

Apurva, we just got some very big public health news here in the United States in the form of this video that came out on Tuesday.

Apurva, we just got some very big public health news here in the United States in the form of this video that came out on Tuesday.

Wow. All right. Well, we're going to get to all the ways in which this process was singular, exceptional, unusual. I think to put it all into context as a public health guideline, we should begin by understanding what has been the government's recommendation for COVID vaccines up until now, when obviously it just changed.

Wow. All right. Well, we're going to get to all the ways in which this process was singular, exceptional, unusual. I think to put it all into context as a public health guideline, we should begin by understanding what has been the government's recommendation for COVID vaccines up until now, when obviously it just changed.

Got it. So this is the biggest by far change in the government's guidelines pretty much since the vaccine became widely available. Correct. And what does it mean for the U.S. government to stop recommending a vaccine for a particular group, practically speaking? Like, what actually changes?

Got it. So this is the biggest by far change in the government's guidelines pretty much since the vaccine became widely available. Correct. And what does it mean for the U.S. government to stop recommending a vaccine for a particular group, practically speaking? Like, what actually changes?

Got it. Well, let's talk about these two categories of people who are now being told that they do not need this vaccine. And from everything you've just said, we'll now probably have a harder time getting it if they wanted it. And let's begin with healthy children and why the government is saying healthy children should not necessarily be getting the COVID vaccine any longer.

Got it. Well, let's talk about these two categories of people who are now being told that they do not need this vaccine. And from everything you've just said, we'll now probably have a harder time getting it if they wanted it. And let's begin with healthy children and why the government is saying healthy children should not necessarily be getting the COVID vaccine any longer.

What's the thinking there?

What's the thinking there?

Let me just make sure I understand. The new guidelines... do not distinguish between a first-time vaccine and boosters, you're saying?

Let me just make sure I understand. The new guidelines... do not distinguish between a first-time vaccine and boosters, you're saying?

And why does that first vaccine matter? Relative to a booster, which I'm guessing matters potentially a little bit less.