Michael Barbaro

They believed ICE agents were staying there, right?

Well, you're hinting at all this.

The reason we're talking to you, of course, is because of the fact that ICE is there, but because specifically of what an ICE agent did in the middle of last week.

The shooting of a Minneapolis resident, Renee Good.

a shooting that killed Ms.

Good.

And at this point, millions of people have watched the video of that shooting from every conceivable angle on social media, on TV news.

But there was a lead up to that shooting that a lot of us didn't watch as closely and didn't see on TV or on YouTube.

And that was the arrival of a large number of immigration and customs enforcement agents starting in early December.

And so that's where I want to begin.

Take me back to that period for you as police chief.

What was your understanding of why the president decided to send these agents to your city?

You're referring to the fraud that had been specifically highlighted in the Somali community in Minneapolis.

And I do want to talk about the president's message when he decided to send specifically immigration officers to Minneapolis.

I mean, he was pretty explicit about his thinking in his mind.

The Somali population in the city, which is sizable and well-known.

Yes.

He described it as a community that was sowing disorder, committing crimes.

Basically, in so many words, a community of troublemakers who should be deported.

And I wonder what you made of that and if it felt like that had been your experience as chief.