Michael Feinstein

And I can see what you gave him.

You gave him, well, admiration, and you were young and beautiful, and it's charming to have around the house.

What did he give you that you have in you still today?

I think you've won.

You clearly knew him.

So you were being introduced to this amazing world.

And this is the Great American Songbook.

And you are living with the great American songwriters.

Is this when also you begin to meet the performers?

Yes.

Who was the first star performer in whose presence you found yourself?

And how did she become like your second mother?

Rosemary Clooney, a name that still resonates.

How did she come to be your second?

What does that mean, being your second mother?

And you told her everything because there was, though there was so much excitement going on, there was unhappiness in you?

yes because you knew you were alone only really at ease with these much older people and in a world of music from a generation before were you not making proper friends of contemporaries had you had any success with a real boyfriend yet

How did you get to know Liza then?

And you became famous as a result of that.

From that gig, yes.