Michael Gold
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875 appearances
8 recordings
2 series
first heard Nov 2025
last heard 6 Jul
Michael Gold’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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But the energy around here is that everybody is really trying to find a way out of this.
And it looks like they're going to move closer.
It's just a matter of how long that takes.
Yes.
The argument that Democrats made when they saw that Republican offer is that it did not do anything they'd asked for.
And that if they agreed to it, they would, on the one hand, not be voting to fund ICE, which is very important to them.
But on the other hand, they wouldn't have gotten anything out of this back-and-forth negotiation.
And there is a concern, mostly expressed privately, that if you fund the TSA and the Coast Guard and all these other agencies, Republicans will never have any incentive to agree to any of these reforms on ICE.
Because...
There won't be any reason for them to do it.
because the Republicans, as you might remember, last year gave ICE billions of dollars in their big, beautiful bill that ICE is using to continue doing what it's been doing anyway.
Right.
ICE has a lot of big, beautiful money, and that's why they've been able to keep operating.
And so Democrats are worried that if they agree to this deal, they're not getting anything, and that they've spent the last five or six weeks holding up TSA and accomplished nothing.
I think for Democrats who may ultimately agree to a deal, the direction that things have been going will be a big part of that.
For example, when Secretary Mullen was at his confirmation hearing, he said, yes, I would want to require...
ICE agents to get warrants when they're entering private homes.
That was a big deal for Democrats.
And it was something the White House hadn't yet conceded.
And I think there were a lot of Democrats who saw that as a sign that things were going to change with ICE and that things were going to change with the Department of Homeland Security.
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