Michael Grella

And he's like, yeah, I'm never going to beat Steven in that category.

Well, that's what got it started.

Yeah.

If you're going to make something truly enduring, truly enduring, there's really only two ways to do it.

When you went inside, you said, you know, there was this being, and the being took you on a staircase.

I said, where did the staircase go?

Well, the staircase went up the side of this big round room.

They say, how would you compare it?

Well, like a movie house, you know, like an amphitheater.

These days, since our technology platforms are...

Which set everybody off because people were saying either they don't know how many people are on the planet, which seems unlikely, or maybe it doesn't take place in the present, or maybe a billion people are alien hybrids or whatever.

Yeah.

How about it?

Smooth.