Michael Hollauf

MindJet, MindManager.

The ultimate goal is, well, we have two angels and two investors and their ultimate goal, I think, is selling at some point.

At least the feeling we're getting from meetings.

Our goal is to create a great business.

Our goal is to actually create a small suite of products.

We have an idea for a third product that's still really under wraps, so don't ask me about it, please.

And we kind of really have fun growing this company.

We were in Vienna.

Now we're kind of looking of expanding a bit more to the States, to the Valley, um, launching, like I said, another product and growing this thing.

If at some point it makes sense for us, uh,

to sort of do some sort of strategic merger or whatever, we'll definitely look at that.

It's not on our list of things, of goals.

Cool, that's a tough one.

Yeah, probably not huge amounts.

Seeing that the customer rate for that market is still quite low, we got nice growth on it, but at this stage, I don't think, you'd probably, you'd be in the seven digits definitely, but not in the high seven digits.

For the only one, for only the one product.

Just the one.

If we got...

I don't know, if you got like 10, 15 million for it, I would say that's for that one product, pretty good.

It's a lot.