Michael Le Page

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The World, the Universe and Us · Climate Crisis Is Triggering Global Food Shortages - New Predictions Are Devastating · 17 Jul 2026 podcast

You know, the other researchers I spoke to, I mean, they sort of say, well, the trouble with these sort of kind of statistical studies is

They may work well.

So, you know, for the near future, they may work well.

But then as you get sort of look further and further into the future, when the sort of conditions get so different, those statistical relationships may no longer apply.

add those other modifiers in and we could be looking at something really bad and i think the really important point here is the one that the researcher uh kai kornhuber made to me which is the point of doing these studies is to ensure that they're wrong climate scientists don't want to be right they'd sort of telling us this is a possibility this is a possibility if we carry on as we are and so let's not carry on and let's avoid i had to read that that bit by him

No, that was the 2007 report.

And the last report in 2022 was much less optimistic.

Yeah, so this team, they did actually try and estimate how the CO2 fertilization effect would influence their numbers.

And

Their overall conclusion that the result, you know, it would decrease their estimates by a small amount, but they decided not to include it because the uncertainty is just so great.

So I should just explain that, you know, plants, obviously, they use CO2 to make food.

so when there's more co2 in the air there's more sort of fertilizer for plants but it's very complicated because you know some plants have already adapted to low co2 levels so higher levels don't necessarily help them and then if you short if a plant's short on water or some other nutrient then having higher co2 levels doesn't help either and obviously if it's extremely hot

And so on.

So it's very complex and hard to work out.

I mean, yes, the CO2 effect is real and it can have some benefits, but it's not going to save us from falling yields.

I mean, you know, if you pour fertilizer on plants, but don't water them, they're going to die.

all of brazil all of south america so then how are they going to grow crops if you've got if you've lost that whole weather system yeah so the farming industry in brazil is actually dependent on the forest on the amazon rainforest because that is producing a lot of the rainfall and so there are studies showing that as you cut down more of the rainforest the farmers get less rainfall so when you lose the amazon you're also going to lose a lot of the rainfall and that farming just isn't going to be able to happen anymore which is that the

irony of the yeah the situation but i think standing back and looking at the bigger picture what what worries me is that farming is a huge cause of global warming and it's through fertilizers and through the use of diesel and things like that but also a big part of it is deforestation because we're cutting down forests to expand farmland that includes the amazon but it's bigger than that and that's obviously putting more co2 into the air and making things even worse so then if we then have

yields falling because of these temperature extremes then we have people going out and cutting down more forests to compensate for that loss you know if your yields go down you need more land and then you have to cut down more forests.

That's absolutely the case.

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