Michael Levin

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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Michael Levin and Karl Friston: How Free Energy Shapes Everything · 14 Feb 2025 podcast

uh processing and creativity is used by agents to uh do something interesting with it.

Could could I c could I could I try try something out here?

I wanna I wanna see what what what Carl thinks about this or and and just to just to see if if you like the whole uh uh premise or or and if so what what you think.

Uh I I I've been thinking about um information on a sort of behavioral timescale, a developmental timescale, and an evolutionary timescale from the perspective of this bowtie architecture idea.

The idea that as an embryo

Or as a cognitive being, you don't have access to the past, which you have access to are the memory engrams that the past has somehow left in your brain or body.

And that at any given moment as an active agent, what you have to do is uh interpret those uh those uh those traces and then they make use of them in some sort of f you know forward aimed uh behavior.

And I I've been I've been playing around with the idea that whereas the

The uh the left side of that uh bowtie where uh where instances of experience and so on are then compressed somehow into a generative model that sits at the center of this bow tie.

So so that that may be as algorithmic uh as and mechanical maybe, but the right side seems to the interpretation of your own memories and and the information that you've got from the genetics or from anything else seems to be fundamentally creative, right?

That that doesn't seem because you've lost information, it doesn't seem to me that you can do that in an algorithmic way.

It seems like that's what we would call creativity is is being handed something, and then you have to come up with different ways to make it relevant and and and make it uh useful to your future behavior.

Um d do you think that kind of architecture is useful and uh that that way of thinking about it is useful?

And if so, what are your thoughts on that creative action?

aspect.

How how do you uncompress these kinds of things that where the environment has changed, you've changed, many things have changed and now you have to uh make some kind of use out of this.

So how how do you see that the right side of that funnel?

Yeah.

I I mean so so on the biology end, um

Well you know, you you you s you you talked about uh filling in the gaps, right?

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