Michael Malice

I've got my reporter in New York or London or whatever, but I've got my censor here.

And he is making sure I have a house, that apartment.

He makes sure I have food.

He makes sure I have access to dignitaries.

He's my lifeline.

If I piss him off, I'm on the next plane out of town.

I don't think it was slow at all.

And it was clearly enough.

And because what are they going to do?

Think about what high status that is if I'm an American journalist in Moscow.

I'm allowed in this secretive country.

I'm the guy-

who's very privileged to have access to live in Moscow and tell Americans, which are all fascinated about this new society, the future, what it's like.

And as soon as I kind of start questioning the narrative, I'm going to get kicked out and humiliated very publicly.

I thought you were in Moscow.

What am I supposed to say?

So, you know, they, Eugene Lyons was, you know, he's one of the heroes in the book.

He was a young communist and I think it was United Press he was working for.

They sent him there.

And when he went there, he's like, oh, this is not what I thought it was going to be like.