Michael Malice

And so, yeah, I think that lesson has very much been forgotten.

It was fine.

Okay.

I'm a Baskin Robbins guy, to be honest, but Van Leeuwen's does some great work.

No.

So when I write books for celebrities and I was co-authoring them, I did it kind of like method acting.

I try to get into their head as much as possible to kind of speak in their voice.

And when you're dealing with

children being tortured, harmed, starved, and you're trying to empathize with the characters, it's hard to take.

The other big part I had, like I was saying earlier, is just, I was just very, very concerned that I told this story and did it justice, because I think this is something that is, I still don't understand, and I'm kind of angry about it,

that it's fallen on me to tell this story this isn't some minor incident that happened some random town and pick a state this is half the world for you know 70 80 years and the fact that it's

This is the 80s.

I mean, you and I are old enough to remember the 80s.

There's a show, I remember the 80s.

The fact that all these things have just kind of, we have this collective amnesia.

And even amnesia, I think a lot of this stuff was not known even at the time or was kind of obscured.

And this is – I remember I was at The Blaze, which is a network run by Glenn Beck, and they're conservatives, and I have a lot of fun there.

And I'm just sitting there, and sometimes they veer off.

They're like, oh, Biden's a communist.

I'm like, okay, Biden's a communist.