Michael Malice

But I'm like, we talk so much about slavery and the Civil War, the atrocities.

We talk about World War II and the Holocaust.

I'm like, how is no one talking about this?

And this can very easily be portrayed as like conservatism's big victory because Reagan and Thatcher were so instrumental in guiding this to a safe landing.

And I'm like, how is no one telling this story?

And then one day my brain is like, you know, you...

write books for a living.

This is kind of your job.

And I'm like, all right, but I still don't, I still, I got to tell you, I'm kind of confused that I'm the one who has to do this because this should be, there should be, you know, there should be 30 books like this.

I think more the hopeful message is that it's not possible that we have to lose.

Like if someone tells you the straight face, you can't win, the enemy is too impressive and strong.

I'm like, what are you talking about?

I mean, look, this was the Soviet Union and it happened...

You know, relatively quickly and relatively peacefully.

I mean, again, and it wasn't because Honecker in East Germany was like, oh, I'm just going to vacate my seat.

He was like sending the tanks and the military guy said no.

So they wanted blood.

There were plenty of people who wanted blood and would have been happy to have it.

I don't see how anyone can argue against that point with a straight face.

Yes, and at the same time, we were told at the time, give it up, be realistic.