Michael Malice

So this was a big source of contention.

So the Fabians, for example, in Britain, who are all socialists, they were very heavily of the idea that we can do this through the ballot box.

We can-

advocate and agitate and get the people to be voting for their own self-interest and furthering the state at the expense of the capitalist class.

Then there were the people who were the hardcore anarchists who were like, uh,

If voting changed anything, they wouldn't let us do it.

And the only way to have a revolution is to have a revolution, to kill, to overthrow, to seize these factories.

And this was a big argument.

And it also fed into the idea of where does free speech end?

Is it legal to be giving speeches advocating for violence and revolution?

is illegal.

Johann Most, who I discuss in the book and in the Anarchist Handbook, he published a book in the 1800s about how to build dynamite and how to build bombs.

And this is a big free speech concern at the time because now anyone in their own house can make a bomb and

kill lots of people.

And this is something that was happening with enormous frequency at the time.

And people tend to think, because we have these kind of prejudices, or we only remember what's happening now.

But this was, I mean, World War II, excuse me, World War I got started with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

There were lots of people, McKinley's another one who I discuss in the book, his assassination.

There was lots of violence happening very regularly in

And with the creation of dynamite, it kind of exponentially became more dangerous and threatening.