Michael Malice

So there were other socialists who did not regard this kind of end times where the state would do it their way at all.

And there were various strains in between where you'd have some capitalism and some socialism, the concept of a safety net.

came out of socialist thinking.

The Labour Party came out of the Fabian Socialists in Great Britain.

Their logo was a wolf in sheep's clothing.

And then when that was too on the nose, they changed it to a tortoise, meaning we're gonna get to socialism slowly in the sense of either gradualism or boiling a frog.

And also the big part of this thinking at the time, this is again, the late 19th century, is the idea that there's gonna be a worldwide workers' revolution.

It wasn't going to be that in one country,

you know, it was going to happen and then all the other countries would be capitalists.

The idea was, all right, like the workers in Germany have more in common with the workers in America than the workers in Germany have with the capitalists in Germany.

So the idea is, all right, like the working class all over the world at one point, they're going to be like, we're being exploited.

It's getting worse and worse for us.

We can't feed our families.

We're getting injured and so on and so forth.

And there's no compensation for this.

We're just going to overthrow our chains and we're going to run everything ourselves.

We're the ones running it already anyway.

And this was a- Doing all the work.

And we're doing all the work.

So why shouldn't we be getting all the benefit?