Michael Moynihan
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842 appearances
21 recordings
2 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard May 2025
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Well, look... he's focused on moving forward we can and and this you know came up in the in the riyadh talks as well this kind of long drawn out and we could go back hundreds if not over a thousand years of this side did this that side did this 2014 what happened in the minsk one minsk two uh and really why those i think those
talks were a good next step is we kept bringing it, Secretary Rubio, me, and Steve Witkoff back to, okay, let's move forward. President Trump is ready to move forward.
What's that?
No, I mean, he said it repeatedly.
I'm repeating what he has repeatedly said. Russia invaded a neighbor, Georgia, under Bush. Russia invaded its neighbor Ukraine under Biden, and Russia invaded its neighbor under Obama, but not under him. Those are his words. They invaded. Yes. Right. Now we can get in debate of who provoked who or what have you.
What I would say to the left or say to anyone is you can't get both sides to the table in a deal if you're trashing one side or the other publicly. And at the same time, if both aren't willing to come, then, you know, we've got all kinds of carrots and sticks and leverage the president's willing to use.
Isn't it?
No, the Israelis have evidence that they were executed. They were brutally executed.
I don't know if that's... Yeah, I don't want to get into that level of detail for the sake of the families, but this was not an errant airstrike.
That's the point. And by the way, just so the... I mean, it wasn't that long ago. that we had college campuses, professors, administrators, literally celebrating Hamas, flying their flag, wearing their colors, cheering them on. And where are those people now? Are they still...
They fully intend to have more October 7th if given the chance. So we have to get as many people out as we can.
Well, first, we have to address what has happened in the radicalization of a whole generation. And this was largely done under the auspices of the UN and UNRWA, who has UN-funded teachers in these schools teaching these children to not only hate Israel, but hate America and really just hate the world. And to love death.
Yeah, and to love death, we also have them being rewarded and paid, financially incentivized to do this for the payments of families that is often done with aid dollars. And one of the reasons that we once again have cut that back off and we've defunded UNRWA. So let's recognize that for what it is and one of the reasons that we have this problem.
There's – what President Trump is speaking to is a practical reality. When we looked at drone footage of Gaza flying over the miles and miles and miles of just rubble, the place looks like Hiroshima. It has been devastated, coupled with no sewage, no water, unexploded ordnance everywhere, all from a war that Hamas started.
But how do you rebuild that place with nearly 2 million people sitting on it? How do they even survive for the 10, 15 years it's going to take? So this is, once again, you don't like this plan of somehow offering these people a better solution, a better life that they've never really been offered. We understand the ideological and emotional attachment to the land, but this is just practicality.
And if not the neighbors, then you have countries like Indonesia, you have countries like Malaysia, you have countries like Azerbaijan and others that, and this isn't mandatory, but it should be voluntary. If they want to leave and the entire world you know, kind of heartbreaks for these people, then let's step up and have real solutions.
And what we saw after the visit of King Abdullah of Jordan was the Arab world is pulling people together. They're pulling themselves together and saying, OK, we're going to come to President Trump with an alternative plan.
gaza era it'll be the gaza era you know we're going to send they're going to send them to egypt and jordan we're going to rebuild it's going to be beautiful beirut was called the you know the paris of mediterranean everybody's i mean alan dershowitz who's been going there for 60 years is saying it was like singapore could have been i'll tell you what happened he said listen so we're going to invest billions of dollars the united states will be somehow be a part of it how do we prevent this insanity from happening all over again
So say you shift these people around, you clear the rubble, you invest billions to rebuild, and another October 7th happens, and here we are. They're very determined to kill Jews. We've been hearing the same old talking points for 70 years, and it keeps happening over and over again.
So if he kind of shakes things up and proposes something radically new, which he did, but he also sees an opportunity, though.
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