Michael Pollan

That's right. Or if you have OCD, you're going to have intrusive thoughts when you're meditating. So I think it kind of breaks people through to a place where they can meditate successfully, but without question. And people have had these mystical, spiritual experiences without drugs. Experiences of nature can do it. Experiences of art can do it.

The mystical experience, which is what this technically is called in the literature, can be approached from a lot of different doors. Psychedelics are just one of them.

The mystical experience, which is what this technically is called in the literature, can be approached from a lot of different doors. Psychedelics are just one of them.

The mystical experience, which is what this technically is called in the literature, can be approached from a lot of different doors. Psychedelics are just one of them.

I think being present for it. We spend so much of our time worrying, thinking about the future, thinking about the past that we let the present go by. And for me, that's one of the, not to say I've mastered this at all, but my psychedelic experience and which has been followed by a meditation practice. That's kind of like psychedelics are not a practice.

I think being present for it. We spend so much of our time worrying, thinking about the future, thinking about the past that we let the present go by. And for me, that's one of the, not to say I've mastered this at all, but my psychedelic experience and which has been followed by a meditation practice. That's kind of like psychedelics are not a practice.

I think being present for it. We spend so much of our time worrying, thinking about the future, thinking about the past that we let the present go by. And for me, that's one of the, not to say I've mastered this at all, but my psychedelic experience and which has been followed by a meditation practice. That's kind of like psychedelics are not a practice.

You can't, you're not gonna do it that many times. But you need a practice to reinforce it.

You can't, you're not gonna do it that many times. But you need a practice to reinforce it.

You can't, you're not gonna do it that many times. But you need a practice to reinforce it.

Exactly, exactly. But after the door is open, you want to keep this way of thinking and these memories alive. One of the things I meditate about very often are psychedelic experiences I've had. They're... They're the stories of you and they're endlessly, you can replay them endlessly. One of the interesting things about psychedelic experiences, it's not like dreams, which are hard to remember.

Exactly, exactly. But after the door is open, you want to keep this way of thinking and these memories alive. One of the things I meditate about very often are psychedelic experiences I've had. They're... They're the stories of you and they're endlessly, you can replay them endlessly. One of the interesting things about psychedelic experiences, it's not like dreams, which are hard to remember.

Exactly, exactly. But after the door is open, you want to keep this way of thinking and these memories alive. One of the things I meditate about very often are psychedelic experiences I've had. They're... They're the stories of you and they're endlessly, you can replay them endlessly. One of the interesting things about psychedelic experiences, it's not like dreams, which are hard to remember.

You remember these. These experiences are indelible. I can summon images from my experiences on psychedelics.

You remember these. These experiences are indelible. I can summon images from my experiences on psychedelics.

You remember these. These experiences are indelible. I can summon images from my experiences on psychedelics.