Michael Pollan

We're eating altogether too much meat or more than the planet can afford to make, particularly a beef. But I think ultra processed food, look, the message that works for people is their health. And I think that's a good place to start. You know, in terms of the definition, I think Carlos's definition is kind of brilliant. I mean, he basically says,

We're eating altogether too much meat or more than the planet can afford to make, particularly a beef. But I think ultra processed food, look, the message that works for people is their health. And I think that's a good place to start. You know, in terms of the definition, I think Carlos's definition is kind of brilliant. I mean, he basically says,

This is food made with ingredients you don't have at home. Just look at the label and you do not have all that stuff, all those weird long chemicals.

This is food made with ingredients you don't have at home. Just look at the label and you do not have all that stuff, all those weird long chemicals.

This is food made with ingredients you don't have at home. Just look at the label and you do not have all that stuff, all those weird long chemicals.

I don't know about your pantry, but I can't find it. And then the other thing is, and you can't make it without a factory. Right, right. And I think we know what that is. And so it's hard to put in a law, I suppose, but there you have it. I think most people recognize it. I think we do have to educate people about it.

I don't know about your pantry, but I can't find it. And then the other thing is, and you can't make it without a factory. Right, right. And I think we know what that is. And so it's hard to put in a law, I suppose, but there you have it. I think most people recognize it. I think we do have to educate people about it.

I don't know about your pantry, but I can't find it. And then the other thing is, and you can't make it without a factory. Right, right. And I think we know what that is. And so it's hard to put in a law, I suppose, but there you have it. I think most people recognize it. I think we do have to educate people about it.

Cured meats people don't think of as ultra-processed, but of course they, you know, it's not a complicated process, but it renders them much less healthy as we're learning.

Cured meats people don't think of as ultra-processed, but of course they, you know, it's not a complicated process, but it renders them much less healthy as we're learning.

Cured meats people don't think of as ultra-processed, but of course they, you know, it's not a complicated process, but it renders them much less healthy as we're learning.

I don't know the answer. I don't know how the processes differ. I mean, certainly we've been smoking meat for a long time. But, you know, the thing we have to remember is the quantities are so different today. You know, Americans eat nine ounces of meat per person per day. And that's unprecedented in the history of humankind. There just wasn't that much meat around.

I don't know the answer. I don't know how the processes differ. I mean, certainly we've been smoking meat for a long time. But, you know, the thing we have to remember is the quantities are so different today. You know, Americans eat nine ounces of meat per person per day. And that's unprecedented in the history of humankind. There just wasn't that much meat around.

I don't know the answer. I don't know how the processes differ. I mean, certainly we've been smoking meat for a long time. But, you know, the thing we have to remember is the quantities are so different today. You know, Americans eat nine ounces of meat per person per day. And that's unprecedented in the history of humankind. There just wasn't that much meat around.

Yeah, I mean, there were moments where people splurged on meat. But meat in most cultures is a flavoring and not a main course. I mean, think of the way the Asians use it or the Indians use it. And there's another way to eat meat and have the advantage of eating meat because it is nutritious food.

Yeah, I mean, there were moments where people splurged on meat. But meat in most cultures is a flavoring and not a main course. I mean, think of the way the Asians use it or the Indians use it. And there's another way to eat meat and have the advantage of eating meat because it is nutritious food.

Yeah, I mean, there were moments where people splurged on meat. But meat in most cultures is a flavoring and not a main course. I mean, think of the way the Asians use it or the Indians use it. And there's another way to eat meat and have the advantage of eating meat because it is nutritious food.

But our idea that you have this big slab of animal on your plate and with some vegetables cowering in the corners, that's a kind of very novel Anglo-American idea.

But our idea that you have this big slab of animal on your plate and with some vegetables cowering in the corners, that's a kind of very novel Anglo-American idea.

But our idea that you have this big slab of animal on your plate and with some vegetables cowering in the corners, that's a kind of very novel Anglo-American idea.