Michael Sainsbury
speaker
179 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 11 Jul
Michael Sainsbury’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I mean, Keith Hartley, who was running this thing, was a senior, very senior RAF officer.
There were other senior Australian and British former military people there, people who were much more senior than Dan.
So for some reason he's been picked out and possibly the reason he's been picked out is because he changed his citizenship and he was an easy target.
At that point, he moved to China and set up a consulting business for the aviation sector.
When he was planning to move to China, Dan says that he was contacted by ASIO and he eventually met with ASIO and also representatives from...
NCIS, part of the US military, who knew that he was planning the move, they knew what had happened in South Africa.
At no stage during those conversations did they tell him that the work he'd been doing was unlawful.
At no stage did they tell him not to go to China.
As I said, the civil aviation market in China was booming.
There was lots of opportunities.
There are a lot of Australians and Westerners in China at that stage still are, but particularly at that point it was...
You know, it was just post-Olympics, everything was less restrictive than it has become.
And he was working in aviation consulting.
He also ended up helping run the Flying Kangaroo Bar in Beijing.
And his wife was working in the fashion business and she was also a photographer.
So it was a good time to be in China, to be honest.
And there was lots of work around and it was pretty non-controversial.
So Su Bin was a guy who his business was finding Westerners to help in the aviation business in China.
He had been involved with connecting Dan with the South African Flying School.
As Dan has said, you know, his Western name was Stephen.
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