Michael Shearer

I mean, White House just goes after him with like a real, like a tenor of fury.

And these are very close old friends, but there's no acknowledgement at all that they ever had a friendship.

And Kennedy's response in those hearings has been, well, look, just give me a call.

You have my cell phone.

We can talk about this.

But this is such a political hot potato right now, the vaccine question.

Again, because the stakes are so high, like as high as they could possibly be, that a lot of relationships have been lost.

Right.

Well, some of those are just things that happen.

I mean, he swims in lakes and rivers and travels the country and he had a parasite in his brain.

And he has this very unique relationship with animals.

So I think he just approaches the idea of finding a bear on the side of the road that's been hit by a car differently than almost anyone else would or finding a whale on a beach differently than anyone else would.

The other category of that, though, especially his relationship with women and sex, is something that, I mean, we didn't discuss it much in detail, but he has also been very clear that his addictions, he describes his brain as a formulation pharmacy, which is basically a way of saying that he can turn anything into a drug.

It's rock climbing, it's, you know...

working with birds, or sex.

And so he's still very much someone who struggles with his demons.

And I think, I mean, he has not commented at all on the relationship with Olivia during the campaign last year.

He has said when he's been confronted with other claims about infidelity, there was a babysitter who, you know, worked with his family who said he inappropriately touched her at some point and sort of propositioned her.

He's apologized for that.

And he'll say, I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they could vote, I'd be king of the world.