Michael Shearer

And so that all this talk is just talk.

And Offit's, you know, become rather...

pessimistic, at least in the short term, about what this is all going to mean.

He believes that rates of disease are going to rise and that ultimately the viruses, the way he said to me, is the viruses and the bacteria are going to do the education.

A state like Florida is getting rid of vaccine mandates in schools.

I think it's happened in Idaho.

There are other places that are making moves in that direction that we are going to see outbreaks.

And those outbreaks will lead to injury and death.

And the only point in which we sort of swing back the other direction will be when that happens.

That's off its view.

Well, so the place to start is that Kennedy said for a long time that you shouldn't trust experts, which is a wild thing for someone running HHS to be saying.

Yeah, he says, don't trust me.

He said, you should do your own research.

And I said to him at one point, I was like, well, wait, if I have to fix my car, I don't start reading manuals about how to replace the carburetor.

I take it to someone to fix the carburetor.

And his answer to that was, well, yeah, but you'd shop different body shops.

You'd go to different mechanics to figure out the best one.

You'd ask other people which is the mechanic you want.

And so he loves reading.

I mean, he's a lawyer by training, not a doctor.