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Michael Shellenberger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1526 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Marxism has this idea that the capitalists, like what's distinct about them is that they're just super greedy and they're thieves and that they're stealing from their workers. And there's really no difference between the entrepreneur, the capitalist entrepreneur like Elon Musk or Thomas Edison or Henry Ford and their workers. They're just meaner and they steal from them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Marxism has this idea that the capitalists, like what's distinct about them is that they're just super greedy and they're thieves and that they're stealing from their workers. And there's really no difference between the entrepreneur, the capitalist entrepreneur like Elon Musk or Thomas Edison or Henry Ford and their workers. They're just meaner and they steal from them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And it's like, it's just an amazingly audacious lie because whenever you go and actually study an entrepreneur, What's incredible is that it's not just that they are doing, it's not like they're the best at what they're doing. They're the best at like 12 different things.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And it's like, it's just an amazingly audacious lie because whenever you go and actually study an entrepreneur, What's incredible is that it's not just that they are doing, it's not like they're the best at what they're doing. They're the best at like 12 different things.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And it's like, it's just an amazingly audacious lie because whenever you go and actually study an entrepreneur, What's incredible is that it's not just that they are doing, it's not like they're the best at what they're doing. They're the best at like 12 different things.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You may remember when Trump and Elon were beginning their bromance, Trump goes, he goes, you know, I asked you, I was like, I was like, what is that you're really good at? You know, you can see it was like probably a question that Trump is used to asking people that he interviews for a job or something. And he goes, turned out it was a lot of different things. Yeah.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You may remember when Trump and Elon were beginning their bromance, Trump goes, he goes, you know, I asked you, I was like, I was like, what is that you're really good at? You know, you can see it was like probably a question that Trump is used to asking people that he interviews for a job or something. And he goes, turned out it was a lot of different things. Yeah.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You may remember when Trump and Elon were beginning their bromance, Trump goes, he goes, you know, I asked you, I was like, I was like, what is that you're really good at? You know, you can see it was like probably a question that Trump is used to asking people that he interviews for a job or something. And he goes, turned out it was a lot of different things. Yeah.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, and it's like, well, yeah, like, I mean, because, of course, like with Thomas Edison, oh, we invent the light bulb. He didn't invent the light bulb. He improved it. He invented a viable economic model for electricity production. I mean, he invented the electrical grid. He found the customers. I mean, one of the things that impresses me so much with with Elon is like, I'll see him.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, and it's like, well, yeah, like, I mean, because, of course, like with Thomas Edison, oh, we invent the light bulb. He didn't invent the light bulb. He improved it. He invented a viable economic model for electricity production. I mean, he invented the electrical grid. He found the customers. I mean, one of the things that impresses me so much with with Elon is like, I'll see him.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, and it's like, well, yeah, like, I mean, because, of course, like with Thomas Edison, oh, we invent the light bulb. He didn't invent the light bulb. He improved it. He invented a viable economic model for electricity production. I mean, he invented the electrical grid. He found the customers. I mean, one of the things that impresses me so much with with Elon is like, I'll see him.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You'll see him out there and he'll be selling electricity. You know, which is kind of I mean, selling is sort of the worst part of our jobs in some ways. I mean, you can do with pleasure and you can do it with Verve and stuff. But but, you know, you kind of like I do it. I mean, I'm always like subscribe now, you know, and you're like, you have to do it like it's part of the work.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You'll see him out there and he'll be selling electricity. You know, which is kind of I mean, selling is sort of the worst part of our jobs in some ways. I mean, you can do with pleasure and you can do it with Verve and stuff. But but, you know, you kind of like I do it. I mean, I'm always like subscribe now, you know, and you're like, you have to do it like it's part of the work.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You'll see him out there and he'll be selling electricity. You know, which is kind of I mean, selling is sort of the worst part of our jobs in some ways. I mean, you can do with pleasure and you can do it with Verve and stuff. But but, you know, you kind of like I do it. I mean, I'm always like subscribe now, you know, and you're like, you have to do it like it's part of the work.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But I'm always like, wow, Elon is he's the richest man in the world. He's probably he may be the greatest innovator in American history, certainly top three. And he's still out there having to hawk his products, and he does it great. He's an amazing job of it. Like, one of the innovations was, you know, he just become the biggest user of Twitter rather than buying paid ads.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But I'm always like, wow, Elon is he's the richest man in the world. He's probably he may be the greatest innovator in American history, certainly top three. And he's still out there having to hawk his products, and he does it great. He's an amazing job of it. Like, one of the innovations was, you know, he just become the biggest user of Twitter rather than buying paid ads.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But I'm always like, wow, Elon is he's the richest man in the world. He's probably he may be the greatest innovator in American history, certainly top three. And he's still out there having to hawk his products, and he does it great. He's an amazing job of it. Like, one of the innovations was, you know, he just become the biggest user of Twitter rather than buying paid ads.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But so this gigantic lie from Marx, which is that the โ€“ first of all, the entrepreneur, the capitalist is just a meaner version of the worker as opposed to this, you know, this Schumpeterian genius. Yes. And Schumpeter comes along, and then his โ€“ the other big lie, and then Schumpeter points it out, is that the owner of the company and the workers have the same fundamental interest.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But so this gigantic lie from Marx, which is that the โ€“ first of all, the entrepreneur, the capitalist is just a meaner version of the worker as opposed to this, you know, this Schumpeterian genius. Yes. And Schumpeter comes along, and then his โ€“ the other big lie, and then Schumpeter points it out, is that the owner of the company and the workers have the same fundamental interest.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But so this gigantic lie from Marx, which is that the โ€“ first of all, the entrepreneur, the capitalist is just a meaner version of the worker as opposed to this, you know, this Schumpeterian genius. Yes. And Schumpeter comes along, and then his โ€“ the other big lie, and then Schumpeter points it out, is that the owner of the company and the workers have the same fundamental interest.