Michael Shellenberger

You know, the irrational ones are the rest of us. They're the ones trying to live there.

You know, the irrational ones are the rest of us. They're the ones trying to live there.

You know, the irrational ones are the rest of us. They're the ones trying to live there.

I mean, they did – I think they are backing off a little bit from it. I think that they're a little trapped, which is great, which is that on the one hand, they can't accept responsibility because they know that if they accept responsibility, then it's just – then their political futures are doomed. Right.

I mean, they did – I think they are backing off a little bit from it. I think that they're a little trapped, which is great, which is that on the one hand, they can't accept responsibility because they know that if they accept responsibility, then it's just – then their political futures are doomed. Right.

I mean, they did – I think they are backing off a little bit from it. I think that they're a little trapped, which is great, which is that on the one hand, they can't accept responsibility because they know that if they accept responsibility, then it's just – then their political futures are doomed. Right.

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's depressing.

That's depressing.

That's depressing.

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

I do think that the woke trance was broken. I mean, Trump broke it. I do, for sure. And look at that. I mean, look at the catastrophe that the news media is in and the success that people like you and I are having and Joe Rogan being the most influential. Yeah. He's like the new Walter Cronkite. Yeah. He's where Mark Zuckerberg goes to confess his sins. Exactly. So it's a different world.

I do think that the woke trance was broken. I mean, Trump broke it. I do, for sure. And look at that. I mean, look at the catastrophe that the news media is in and the success that people like you and I are having and Joe Rogan being the most influential. Yeah. He's like the new Walter Cronkite. Yeah. He's where Mark Zuckerberg goes to confess his sins. Exactly. So it's a different world.