Michael Shellenberger

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

On the other hand, by not accepting responsibility and passing the buck, that also becomes obvious to people. So, you know, they should all go. I mean, remember, like, you know, New Orleans, like, that mayor was out of there. I mean, like... Ray Nagin was there for that. Yeah. So, that should be what happens.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's depressing.

That's depressing.

That's depressing.

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

Well, there's no vision for it at all, you know, and we don't have anybody visionary in there. I mean, I think we had this guy, Rick Caruso, as you were mentioning, who ran for mayor. I mean, someone found, you know, there is a video of him calling for increasing the fire department budget. I mean, kind of like, what else do you need to know at this point? Can that overcome the...

I do think that the woke trance was broken. I mean, Trump broke it. I do, for sure. And look at that. I mean, look at the catastrophe that the news media is in and the success that people like you and I are having and Joe Rogan being the most influential. Yeah. He's like the new Walter Cronkite. Yeah. He's where Mark Zuckerberg goes to confess his sins. Exactly. So it's a different world.

I do think that the woke trance was broken. I mean, Trump broke it. I do, for sure. And look at that. I mean, look at the catastrophe that the news media is in and the success that people like you and I are having and Joe Rogan being the most influential. Yeah. He's like the new Walter Cronkite. Yeah. He's where Mark Zuckerberg goes to confess his sins. Exactly. So it's a different world.

I do think that the woke trance was broken. I mean, Trump broke it. I do, for sure. And look at that. I mean, look at the catastrophe that the news media is in and the success that people like you and I are having and Joe Rogan being the most influential. Yeah. He's like the new Walter Cronkite. Yeah. He's where Mark Zuckerberg goes to confess his sins. Exactly. So it's a different world.

I do have some hope for it. I mean, the thing about the United States that's so different from Europe is just that literally they I'm becoming like an old man because I'm talking about how great the founding fathers were. But but it's like literally they created this incredible system that if you have free speech.

I do have some hope for it. I mean, the thing about the United States that's so different from Europe is just that literally they I'm becoming like an old man because I'm talking about how great the founding fathers were. But but it's like literally they created this incredible system that if you have free speech.

I do have some hope for it. I mean, the thing about the United States that's so different from Europe is just that literally they I'm becoming like an old man because I'm talking about how great the founding fathers were. But but it's like literally they created this incredible system that if you have free speech.

If you can protect your free speech, which we've, I think, succeeded in doing, you bake it in, you remind people of its importance, you then are, I think, going to be able to self-correct in ways that places that allow higher levels of censorship are simply not going to be able to do. Right. I mean, just look at this impact that Elon is having right now. It's incredible.

If you can protect your free speech, which we've, I think, succeeded in doing, you bake it in, you remind people of its importance, you then are, I think, going to be able to self-correct in ways that places that allow higher levels of censorship are simply not going to be able to do. Right. I mean, just look at this impact that Elon is having right now. It's incredible.