Michael Shellenberger

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1,228 appearances 6 recordings 4 series first heard Oct 2024 last heard 18 Feb

Michael Shellenberger’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But in some senses, it really just didn't get its power until Elon came in, bought it, and held strong against people calling him a racist anti-Semite for two years. I mean, it was just crazy. It was like two years of the media just... Making him out to be the devil incarnate. And he held strong. And he ended up breaking the news media. I mean, they're just not getting the traffic. They're done.
It's over. Yeah. It's over.
The weather, the wind moved.
They're the first. They're the first ones to shift. No, you're right. Right? You're right. Yeah, because they're covering the news. Like, they know, they're the first ones that know when the winds are coming. The principle plays no role.
It's amazing. It really reveals, doesn't it, the herd animals, so.
Well, yeah. I mean, how can they stop it, though? I don't know. I'm just feeling a little paranoid right now. No, no, I am too.
No, I know. I know. No, I totally do, too. You're like, when's the penny going to drop? Yeah, kind of. Well, yeah. And I also kind of go, are they really going to disclose all the stuff that they have? I mean, we were going down, we just did a, actually, I don't know if we published it yet, but we were just going down the list of all the files that we want. Exactly.
Because, you know, people are like, oh, can we have the Twitter files for the government? You're like, yes. So what? I mean, there's so much in there, right? So Russiagate. You know, the Russia collusion hoax, COVID origins, COVID vaccines, Hunter Biden laptop. Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming there's just a bunch of stuff on Russia, Ukraine that's there.
I mean, remember, because they keep leaking, they go, they go, there's no bio labs in Ukraine. They're like, well, there were some, we were doing some help with the bio.
Oh, it's so much pent-up stuff. So much. I mean, we're supposed... Yeah, we have the JFK files, the UFO files, UAP files, I was just to say.
and this is someone who's pushing disclosure by the way this is not i know i don't know yeah i'm worried that it's bad news well that's the point it's bad yeah i'm worried it's bad really bad news yeah do you think that's true well i don't know no i'm not even saying it because i don't know if it's true and it is bad it's super bad
I mean, it seems like the dominant two theories are now that it's non-human intelligence or that we or our adversaries have mastered anti-gravity technology. The other scenarios of some kind of new plasma or... You know, it's just kind of the phenomenon doesn't seem to be showing up in that way.
yeah i mean you know and i it's hard i mean um you know they i covered the new jersey drone situation i went to jersey and interviewed a bunch of people i mean the weirdest for me the weirdest moment is where you have john kirby the defense department spokesperson and mayorkas basically on the same day or the same 48 hours just um when they were asked about they just came out affirmatively and they were like well we're definitely not getting any drones over the military bases or other sensitive sites and you're like
I was like, why would you lie about that? I couldn't because, of course, all else being equal, I think that people don't want to lie. Politicians don't want to lie because it just creates more work or hassle for them. It complicates your life. It complicates your life. Honesty is the best policy. So why would they lie about that? Especially because the Wall Street Journal had like –
They did this huge piece about all of the drone, so-called, by the way, unidentified anomalous drone flyovers over the military bases and sensitive sites, which includes nuclear plants. I mean, part of my interest in this was always, you know, I was trying to save Diablo Canyon in California. They kept getting drone flyovers.
Also, Palo Verde, which is our biggest nuclear plant, three beautiful reactors there in Arizona, like a lot of... Drone flyovers. I'm also from Northeast Colorado, which is where, you know, the ICBMs are a lot of their whole did this exact same drone situation. I believe it was December. I want to say December 2019.
And they had this whole interagency task force and they were like, they were like, oh, we're going to put a plane up and they kind of put a plane up and you're watching me like. You're like, well, why are they not scrambling jets? Like, what are we like? What are we doing here? Like, this is really bizarre. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't.
I can't figure it out because I think the other issue is that they may not know. I mean, OK, well, so to finish that story. So then drone migrants do that. I go out and I'm just like, like, that's the weirdest lie because like it was just it's been heavily reported. I mean, the drones. I mean, the.
The drones over sensitive military bases is really well reported, and some of the best reporting was by a publication called The War Zone, which I highly recommend. Very good, serious investigative reporting. They don't believe it's aliens at all. Like, they're just openly, like, anti-alien. They're like, this is – and I think it's –
Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.
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