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Michael Shellenberger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1526 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

If you can protect your free speech, which we've, I think, succeeded in doing, you bake it in, you remind people of its importance, you then are, I think, going to be able to self-correct in ways that places that allow higher levels of censorship are simply not going to be able to do. Right. I mean, just look at this impact that Elon is having right now. It's incredible.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I was on some social media chat group and somebody was like, how come we're all talking about the British grooming gangs? It's like, because Elon decided that that was an issue, the AFD in Germany may end up, you know, I mean, I think they're going to come in at least second in the elections next month because Elon has mainstreamed them. Of course. So that gives me a lot of hope.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I was on some social media chat group and somebody was like, how come we're all talking about the British grooming gangs? It's like, because Elon decided that that was an issue, the AFD in Germany may end up, you know, I mean, I think they're going to come in at least second in the elections next month because Elon has mainstreamed them. Of course. So that gives me a lot of hope.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I was on some social media chat group and somebody was like, how come we're all talking about the British grooming gangs? It's like, because Elon decided that that was an issue, the AFD in Germany may end up, you know, I mean, I think they're going to come in at least second in the elections next month because Elon has mainstreamed them. Of course. So that gives me a lot of hope.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You've got a platform now that is still just the... I mean, we always knew that the media had that agenda setting power. Yes. But it's amazing to sort of see it so dramatically. You only can really see it when it shifts from the mainstream news media. We were we were writing last summer about how

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You've got a platform now that is still just the... I mean, we always knew that the media had that agenda setting power. Yes. But it's amazing to sort of see it so dramatically. You only can really see it when it shifts from the mainstream news media. We were we were writing last summer about how

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You've got a platform now that is still just the... I mean, we always knew that the media had that agenda setting power. Yes. But it's amazing to sort of see it so dramatically. You only can really see it when it shifts from the mainstream news media. We were we were writing last summer about how

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

the sovereign in the United States, meaning like the true power center in the United States was the news media. That is now, in my view, clearly shifted to Axe. It's just, I think you said something recently. I think I saw a clip of you saying the same thing. I mean, it's just clear like that is where... It dominates everything. It's just everything, you know? And like Blue Sky gave it a...

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

the sovereign in the United States, meaning like the true power center in the United States was the news media. That is now, in my view, clearly shifted to Axe. It's just, I think you said something recently. I think I saw a clip of you saying the same thing. I mean, it's just clear like that is where... It dominates everything. It's just everything, you know? And like Blue Sky gave it a...

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

the sovereign in the United States, meaning like the true power center in the United States was the news media. That is now, in my view, clearly shifted to Axe. It's just, I think you said something recently. I think I saw a clip of you saying the same thing. I mean, it's just clear like that is where... It dominates everything. It's just everything, you know? And like Blue Sky gave it a...

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They gave it a shot, but nobody can go on there. It's too mad. It's too insane. So I think it can be very, very positive. You know, I always compare Acts to, you know, it's like when the printing press first shows up in the end of the 15th century for like about 100 years, the Catholic Church is like, the printing press is great. You know, we can print Bibles and give them out to all the priests.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They gave it a shot, but nobody can go on there. It's too mad. It's too insane. So I think it can be very, very positive. You know, I always compare Acts to, you know, it's like when the printing press first shows up in the end of the 15th century for like about 100 years, the Catholic Church is like, the printing press is great. You know, we can print Bibles and give them out to all the priests.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They gave it a shot, but nobody can go on there. It's too mad. It's too insane. So I think it can be very, very positive. You know, I always compare Acts to, you know, it's like when the printing press first shows up in the end of the 15th century for like about 100 years, the Catholic Church is like, the printing press is great. You know, we can print Bibles and give them out to all the priests.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's very cheap. The Catholic Church loved the printing press. And then Martin Luther got a hold of the printing press. And it was just, for the next five centuries, it was game over. I mean, the best history of the printing press, she goes back, I think it's an Oxford history, she goes back and just looks at its impact.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's very cheap. The Catholic Church loved the printing press. And then Martin Luther got a hold of the printing press. And it was just, for the next five centuries, it was game over. I mean, the best history of the printing press, she goes back, I think it's an Oxford history, she goes back and just looks at its impact.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's very cheap. The Catholic Church loved the printing press. And then Martin Luther got a hold of the printing press. And it was just, for the next five centuries, it was game over. I mean, the best history of the printing press, she goes back, I think it's an Oxford history, she goes back and just looks at its impact.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And she comes back and she's just like, after years of study or whatever, and she's like, oh, we knew it was a big deal But it's a much bigger deal than we thought. It's not just the Protestant Reformation. It is that it's also the scientific revolution. It's the industrial revolution. It's nationalism and it's democracy.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And she comes back and she's just like, after years of study or whatever, and she's like, oh, we knew it was a big deal But it's a much bigger deal than we thought. It's not just the Protestant Reformation. It is that it's also the scientific revolution. It's the industrial revolution. It's nationalism and it's democracy.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And she comes back and she's just like, after years of study or whatever, and she's like, oh, we knew it was a big deal But it's a much bigger deal than we thought. It's not just the Protestant Reformation. It is that it's also the scientific revolution. It's the industrial revolution. It's nationalism and it's democracy.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, so you get a huge epical change with this shift of communications technologies and social media. We knew it. I mean, we, you know, Martin Gurry famously wrote this book, Revolt to the Public. about the game-changing aspects of social media just on the Arab Spring, you know, which is now 14 years ago.