Michael Shellenberger

Yeah. Then the question would be, so if it is NHI, then the question is, are they communicating something? If they are communicating something, why would they only be doing it in that way? If you're trying to demonstrate your strength and adversary or something, you're trying to send some message, why would you just do that? Because there's nothing that we can do with that information.

Yeah. Then the question would be, so if it is NHI, then the question is, are they communicating something? If they are communicating something, why would they only be doing it in that way? If you're trying to demonstrate your strength and adversary or something, you're trying to send some message, why would you just do that? Because there's nothing that we can do with that information.

So then you have to wonder, okay, if it is NHI and it's behaving in that way. Non-human intelligence. Yeah, non-human intelligence. Then is there some – is there actually some other communication going on that we don't know about? And, of course, there's just a long history and there's all these crazy stories of presidents. I mean, going back to Eisenhower –

So then you have to wonder, okay, if it is NHI and it's behaving in that way. Non-human intelligence. Yeah, non-human intelligence. Then is there some – is there actually some other communication going on that we don't know about? And, of course, there's just a long history and there's all these crazy stories of presidents. I mean, going back to Eisenhower –

So then you have to wonder, okay, if it is NHI and it's behaving in that way. Non-human intelligence. Yeah, non-human intelligence. Then is there some – is there actually some other communication going on that we don't know about? And, of course, there's just a long history and there's all these crazy stories of presidents. I mean, going back to Eisenhower –

I genuinely don't know. I mean, I might be more shocked if they were human-made because of their behaviors and they never were able to get one. I did have somebody tell me recently that they had heard... I mean, again, it's always secondhand. It's so untrustworthy. But somebody told me that... that the military got one of the orbs, the famous orbs, and opened it up, and it was Chinese.

I genuinely don't know. I mean, I might be more shocked if they were human-made because of their behaviors and they never were able to get one. I did have somebody tell me recently that they had heard... I mean, again, it's always secondhand. It's so untrustworthy. But somebody told me that... that the military got one of the orbs, the famous orbs, and opened it up, and it was Chinese.

I genuinely don't know. I mean, I might be more shocked if they were human-made because of their behaviors and they never were able to get one. I did have somebody tell me recently that they had heard... I mean, again, it's always secondhand. It's so untrustworthy. But somebody told me that... that the military got one of the orbs, the famous orbs, and opened it up, and it was Chinese.

I mean, if that's the case, then somebody has mastered anti-gravity, and that's almost harder for me to believe than that it's NHI, because... I mean, it's just I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, we have a I mean, here's the I literally I go back and forth. You see me doing it in the same conversation. But we have these huge black budgets in the military. I mean, just gigantic.

I mean, if that's the case, then somebody has mastered anti-gravity, and that's almost harder for me to believe than that it's NHI, because... I mean, it's just I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, we have a I mean, here's the I literally I go back and forth. You see me doing it in the same conversation. But we have these huge black budgets in the military. I mean, just gigantic.

I mean, if that's the case, then somebody has mastered anti-gravity, and that's almost harder for me to believe than that it's NHI, because... I mean, it's just I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, we have a I mean, here's the I literally I go back and forth. You see me doing it in the same conversation. But we have these huge black budgets in the military. I mean, just gigantic.

And they've been there for decades. So is it possible to cover up something like that? I think it might be. I mean, I'm much more after having covered the Hunter Biden laptop and. I mean, Russiagate too, but really the Hunter Biden laptop, I was just impressed by how many people were involved in the conspiracy to cover it up.

And they've been there for decades. So is it possible to cover up something like that? I think it might be. I mean, I'm much more after having covered the Hunter Biden laptop and. I mean, Russiagate too, but really the Hunter Biden laptop, I was just impressed by how many people were involved in the conspiracy to cover it up.

And they've been there for decades. So is it possible to cover up something like that? I think it might be. I mean, I'm much more after having covered the Hunter Biden laptop and. I mean, Russiagate too, but really the Hunter Biden laptop, I was just impressed by how many people were involved in the conspiracy to cover it up.

I mean, you had the FBI getting it, covering it up, basically working with Aspen Institute to run a disinformation campaign. By the way, this is Vivian Schiller and Garrett Graff run the disinformation campaign aimed at persuading journalists in advance of the release of the Hunter Biden laptop that it was a Russian information operation.

I mean, you had the FBI getting it, covering it up, basically working with Aspen Institute to run a disinformation campaign. By the way, this is Vivian Schiller and Garrett Graff run the disinformation campaign aimed at persuading journalists in advance of the release of the Hunter Biden laptop that it was a Russian information operation.

I mean, you had the FBI getting it, covering it up, basically working with Aspen Institute to run a disinformation campaign. By the way, this is Vivian Schiller and Garrett Graff run the disinformation campaign aimed at persuading journalists in advance of the release of the Hunter Biden laptop that it was a Russian information operation.

Garrett Graff is the guy that goes and does the big UFO book. So these things all I mean, this was very weird. So he comes out with a big book on UFOs. I think it was last year's called UFO Garrett Graff. This is somebody that is famously close with the intelligence community. His other books were on Watergate and on 9-11. The book... And both of which were totally legitimate. No, for sure.

Garrett Graff is the guy that goes and does the big UFO book. So these things all I mean, this was very weird. So he comes out with a big book on UFOs. I think it was last year's called UFO Garrett Graff. This is somebody that is famously close with the intelligence community. His other books were on Watergate and on 9-11. The book... And both of which were totally legitimate. No, for sure.

Garrett Graff is the guy that goes and does the big UFO book. So these things all I mean, this was very weird. So he comes out with a big book on UFOs. I think it was last year's called UFO Garrett Graff. This is somebody that is famously close with the intelligence community. His other books were on Watergate and on 9-11. The book... And both of which were totally legitimate. No, for sure.