Michael Shellenberger

And they're doing it in ways where they don't want it to escalate, but they want to get a little bit more of that space. It's all super calculated. Now, there was the balloon. Are there Chinese balloons? Yeah. But I mean, to be buzzing our military bases, it's just so aggressive.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That just doesn't it just I just got to say it's just it's so aggressive. And and also but the other thing is that like, you know, reckless actually seems really reckless. And the Chinese have not been seeking confrontations like that for the most part. Now, Jesse Michaels, who is doing some of the best reporting on this issue of UAPs, he's doing YouTube videos.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That just doesn't it just I just got to say it's just it's so aggressive. And and also but the other thing is that like, you know, reckless actually seems really reckless. And the Chinese have not been seeking confrontations like that for the most part. Now, Jesse Michaels, who is doing some of the best reporting on this issue of UAPs, he's doing YouTube videos.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That just doesn't it just I just got to say it's just it's so aggressive. And and also but the other thing is that like, you know, reckless actually seems really reckless. And the Chinese have not been seeking confrontations like that for the most part. Now, Jesse Michaels, who is doing some of the best reporting on this issue of UAPs, he's doing YouTube videos.

He just did a documentary that was incredible. I think it's like a couple of hours, highly recommended, that goes through the very long history of unidentified anomalous phenomena over U.S. military bases, including all these cases of – several cases of them shutting down –

He just did a documentary that was incredible. I think it's like a couple of hours, highly recommended, that goes through the very long history of unidentified anomalous phenomena over U.S. military bases, including all these cases of – several cases of them shutting down –

He just did a documentary that was incredible. I think it's like a couple of hours, highly recommended, that goes through the very long history of unidentified anomalous phenomena over U.S. military bases, including all these cases of – several cases of them shutting down –

missile system like a 65 year long history yeah yeah and there was this famous press conference with like missileers and others from military bases in Washington DC I want to say in the 90s maybe maybe 80s so you know like that predates Any of the Chinese stuff by far predates all the drones. So that was going on for a really long time.

missile system like a 65 year long history yeah yeah and there was this famous press conference with like missileers and others from military bases in Washington DC I want to say in the 90s maybe maybe 80s so you know like that predates Any of the Chinese stuff by far predates all the drones. So that was going on for a really long time.

missile system like a 65 year long history yeah yeah and there was this famous press conference with like missileers and others from military bases in Washington DC I want to say in the 90s maybe maybe 80s so you know like that predates Any of the Chinese stuff by far predates all the drones. So that was going on for a really long time.

I mean, if you just kind of if you step back and you look at it, it looks like a very like what is it communicating on a very basic level? It's definitely communicating dominance.

I mean, if you just kind of if you step back and you look at it, it looks like a very like what is it communicating on a very basic level? It's definitely communicating dominance.

I mean, if you just kind of if you step back and you look at it, it looks like a very like what is it communicating on a very basic level? It's definitely communicating dominance.

You can read it in a lot of different ways, and that's similar to what the Navy pilots said around the tic-tac interactions off both coasts, is that these were phenomena or objects, whatever you want to call them, or craft, that were just demonstrating dominance over our craft. They were able to do things that our craft weren't doing.

You can read it in a lot of different ways, and that's similar to what the Navy pilots said around the tic-tac interactions off both coasts, is that these were phenomena or objects, whatever you want to call them, or craft, that were just demonstrating dominance over our craft. They were able to do things that our craft weren't doing.

You can read it in a lot of different ways, and that's similar to what the Navy pilots said around the tic-tac interactions off both coasts, is that these were phenomena or objects, whatever you want to call them, or craft, that were just demonstrating dominance over our craft. They were able to do things that our craft weren't doing.

Yeah. Then the question would be, so if it is NHI, then the question is, are they communicating something? If they are communicating something, why would they only be doing it in that way? If you're trying to demonstrate your strength and adversary or something, you're trying to send some message, why would you just do that? Because there's nothing that we can do with that information.