Michael Shellenberger

Two guys said non-human intelligence. And then me and the NASA guy said, we don't know. Because I just don't. I mean, I just. What do you think the drones over in New Jersey were? I mean, look, let's just look at the possibility that they're human. They didn't get a single one of them. They didn't down a single one of them. Not a single one of them crashed. And there was a lot of them.

Two guys said non-human intelligence. And then me and the NASA guy said, we don't know. Because I just don't. I mean, I just. What do you think the drones over in New Jersey were? I mean, look, let's just look at the possibility that they're human. They didn't get a single one of them. They didn't down a single one of them. Not a single one of them crashed. And there was a lot of them.

Two guys said non-human intelligence. And then me and the NASA guy said, we don't know. Because I just don't. I mean, I just. What do you think the drones over in New Jersey were? I mean, look, let's just look at the possibility that they're human. They didn't get a single one of them. They didn't down a single one of them. Not a single one of them crashed. And there was a lot of them.

And there was a lot of, look, there's a lot of mistaken sightings. You know, it is easy to mistake things. It's totally natural. But there was also, I mean, I interviewed mayors, two mayors, One of them was like, I had an SUV-sized drone flying over my house. Another one said he was going to a Fox News interview in New York.

And there was a lot of, look, there's a lot of mistaken sightings. You know, it is easy to mistake things. It's totally natural. But there was also, I mean, I interviewed mayors, two mayors, One of them was like, I had an SUV-sized drone flying over my house. Another one said he was going to a Fox News interview in New York.

And there was a lot of, look, there's a lot of mistaken sightings. You know, it is easy to mistake things. It's totally natural. But there was also, I mean, I interviewed mayors, two mayors, One of them was like, I had an SUV-sized drone flying over my house. Another one said he was going to a Fox News interview in New York.

The car came for me, walks out his door, and there's one hovering right over him. And he felt like it was watching him, like it was there monitoring him. I mean, that's weird stuff. So we can't get a single drone down. They're over military bases. They can't seem to get any of them. You know, do I think the Chinese could be behind or the Chinese?

The car came for me, walks out his door, and there's one hovering right over him. And he felt like it was watching him, like it was there monitoring him. I mean, that's weird stuff. So we can't get a single drone down. They're over military bases. They can't seem to get any of them. You know, do I think the Chinese could be behind or the Chinese?

The car came for me, walks out his door, and there's one hovering right over him. And he felt like it was watching him, like it was there monitoring him. I mean, that's weird stuff. So we can't get a single drone down. They're over military bases. They can't seem to get any of them. You know, do I think the Chinese could be behind or the Chinese?

I mean, when the Chinese decide to like encroach in the South China Sea, when they decide, you know how they'll like warn the United States occasionally, you're flying over our airspace. It's all super calculated and like... It's like a performance. The Chinese are like, we're messing with you, like you all kind of know.

I mean, when the Chinese decide to like encroach in the South China Sea, when they decide, you know how they'll like warn the United States occasionally, you're flying over our airspace. It's all super calculated and like... It's like a performance. The Chinese are like, we're messing with you, like you all kind of know.

I mean, when the Chinese decide to like encroach in the South China Sea, when they decide, you know how they'll like warn the United States occasionally, you're flying over our airspace. It's all super calculated and like... It's like a performance. The Chinese are like, we're messing with you, like you all kind of know.

And they're doing it in ways where they don't want it to escalate, but they want to get a little bit more of that space. It's all super calculated. Now, there was the balloon. Are there Chinese balloons? Yeah. But I mean, to be buzzing our military bases, it's just so aggressive.

And they're doing it in ways where they don't want it to escalate, but they want to get a little bit more of that space. It's all super calculated. Now, there was the balloon. Are there Chinese balloons? Yeah. But I mean, to be buzzing our military bases, it's just so aggressive.

And they're doing it in ways where they don't want it to escalate, but they want to get a little bit more of that space. It's all super calculated. Now, there was the balloon. Are there Chinese balloons? Yeah. But I mean, to be buzzing our military bases, it's just so aggressive.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Now, when I've said that before, I've had other people point out, they go, well, they're aggressive with the cyber attacks, right? I guess that's true. As a physicalist, I guess I kind of go flying your drones over U.S. military bases and nuclear plants, that is just a level of aggression that just doesn't seem characteristic of the Chinese. Unless you were – well, of course I agree with you.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That just doesn't it just I just got to say it's just it's so aggressive. And and also but the other thing is that like, you know, reckless actually seems really reckless. And the Chinese have not been seeking confrontations like that for the most part. Now, Jesse Michaels, who is doing some of the best reporting on this issue of UAPs, he's doing YouTube videos.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. That just doesn't it just I just got to say it's just it's so aggressive. And and also but the other thing is that like, you know, reckless actually seems really reckless. And the Chinese have not been seeking confrontations like that for the most part. Now, Jesse Michaels, who is doing some of the best reporting on this issue of UAPs, he's doing YouTube videos.