Michael Shellenberger

Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.

Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...

it's impressive i mean if it's a hoax it's just um one of the greatest hoaxes of all times you know like other hoaxes um you know like the protocols of the elders of zion or whatever they're they're really bad like they're really you're just like this is like the dumbest hoax ever like most hoaxes are not that sophisticated with all these details unless people interviewed of course roswell was the big case but it's only apparently one of them there's others

it's impressive i mean if it's a hoax it's just um one of the greatest hoaxes of all times you know like other hoaxes um you know like the protocols of the elders of zion or whatever they're they're really bad like they're really you're just like this is like the dumbest hoax ever like most hoaxes are not that sophisticated with all these details unless people interviewed of course roswell was the big case but it's only apparently one of them there's others

it's impressive i mean if it's a hoax it's just um one of the greatest hoaxes of all times you know like other hoaxes um you know like the protocols of the elders of zion or whatever they're they're really bad like they're really you're just like this is like the dumbest hoax ever like most hoaxes are not that sophisticated with all these details unless people interviewed of course roswell was the big case but it's only apparently one of them there's others

So there is this incredible, you know, gray literature never published by any academic press, by really a little bit of commercial nonfiction. Obviously, you have David Grush and Lou Elizondo. I testified in front of Congress on this in November. I guess I was in December or November and, you know, two people, the two guys from the military, when we were asked, what are they?

So there is this incredible, you know, gray literature never published by any academic press, by really a little bit of commercial nonfiction. Obviously, you have David Grush and Lou Elizondo. I testified in front of Congress on this in November. I guess I was in December or November and, you know, two people, the two guys from the military, when we were asked, what are they?

So there is this incredible, you know, gray literature never published by any academic press, by really a little bit of commercial nonfiction. Obviously, you have David Grush and Lou Elizondo. I testified in front of Congress on this in November. I guess I was in December or November and, you know, two people, the two guys from the military, when we were asked, what are they?