Michael Shellenberger
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first heard Oct 2024
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you know, advanced tech, then, and they'd be like, and there's no strings attached or whatever, that would be a much easier story to sell. But if there's some bad news in that story, then that might explain why they're so secret. Well, clearly there's some bad news.
Well, they don't control him, obviously. So that's very nerve-wracking. I mean, how much do you think that they're just worried that he's going to pull out of NATO? How much of it is that?
So what do you, so you think he knows what it is? The UAP stuff? Yeah. I do think that, yes.
I mean, yeah, no. I mean, it's very, yeah. I mean, I say my prayers. I'm still Christian. I mean, you know, it's interesting. Joe, when I was on Joe Rogan's podcast last time, I mean, here, you know, Joe was like, I think that they're extraterrestrials. You know, he's openly saying that. Yeah, it's not. That's not the case. Well, okay, or NH, I guess NHI. Yeah.
But I mean, here you and Joe are like the two big, most influential podcasters in the country, and you both think that it's not just a government secret tech or that it's not just plasmas. And Joe's very close with Elon, loves Elon. You know, like me, and I think probably like you, believes that Elon deserves a huge amount of credit for saving free speech in this country. Yeah.
um elon says there's nothing there he never sees anything and they've got an amazing rocket system that sees a lot of things sure i've talked to elon about this a number of times okay and i'm not sure he said that okay i thought he did say that no i thought he said if i see if there's any aliens he jokes about it which is a tell um trump does too uh and they all they joke in the same way i mean i of course i love them both obviously and i feel like
Well, we do have some photos. I mean, there's that one photo of the one, I can't remember, it's like, it's in the James Fox documentary. So there are some of those, apparently. Coming through space in here. And certainly, I've been told there's a lot more of those photos and images.
And why the elusiveness then? Why the secrecy? Well, that's the question.
That's a really interesting one. That's a surprisingly interesting one, actually.
And I don't think it's to cover up a secret weapons program. I mean, in other words, like, I don't think that's how you would do it. It's so like, yeah, I don't believe it. A secret weapons program. Yeah.
And you wouldn't need this elaborate... And also, if you're doing passage material, just to go back to those cases, why would it be that? And why would there be so much of it? Why wouldn't it be something... Anyway, it's a very curiously large body of passage material on this particular topic. Well, that's right.
There's a lot. There's a lot.
Well, I thought also that, you know, you may have seen Marc Andreessen recently said that when he met with White House officials who said that they wanted to take control over all AI, that they said to him something like, we've declassified whole areas of science since the 1950s. And I was like, that just seemed like a reference to this stuff, right?
At least to the anti-gravity, if not to some of the UAP stuff.
Well, like for a hundred years, right? Really from Darwin, nearly 150 years.
Well, it sure seemed like it. I mean, there's a really positive side of it though, which is that we haven't had these awful wars. Yes. Brutal. I mean, when you look at the death toll that was going up and up and up from wars all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, it's awful. So, they've spared us that, but it took something apocalyptic.
Yeah.
You mean from a foreign power or? I do. Oh. Like, what's the evidence for that?
I mean, I was more struck by that on the UAP, on the drone UAP. Yeah, well, exactly. It's of a piece. Yeah.
Very weird.
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