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Michael Shellenberger

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1512 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I can't figure it out because I think the other issue is that they may not know. I mean, OK, well, so to finish that story. So then drone migrants do that. I go out and I'm just like, like, that's the weirdest lie because like it was just it's been heavily reported. I mean, the drones. I mean, the.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I can't figure it out because I think the other issue is that they may not know. I mean, OK, well, so to finish that story. So then drone migrants do that. I go out and I'm just like, like, that's the weirdest lie because like it was just it's been heavily reported. I mean, the drones. I mean, the.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

The drones over sensitive military bases is really well reported, and some of the best reporting was by a publication called The War Zone, which I highly recommend. Very good, serious investigative reporting. They don't believe it's aliens at all. Like, they're just openly, like, anti-alien. They're like, this is – and I think it's –

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

The drones over sensitive military bases is really well reported, and some of the best reporting was by a publication called The War Zone, which I highly recommend. Very good, serious investigative reporting. They don't believe it's aliens at all. Like, they're just openly, like, anti-alien. They're like, this is – and I think it's –

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

The drones over sensitive military bases is really well reported, and some of the best reporting was by a publication called The War Zone, which I highly recommend. Very good, serious investigative reporting. They don't believe it's aliens at all. Like, they're just openly, like, anti-alien. They're like, this is – and I think it's –

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, anyway, for whatever reason, they're just like, this is Chinese or Russian or whatever. They're not taking it seriously. But they do some of the best reporting because they're kind of because they can't figure out why the military is being so weird about it. So then Trump comes out and he goes, they know what it is. I don't know why they're not telling anybody.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And I'm going to tell everybody on the 20th. I mean, first of all, I'm really happy that they're going to disclose. And I want to raise expectations about what the Trump administration is going to do. We want the data. And I mean, someone was criticizing me because they were like, oh, because I came out. I said, oh, I'm confident the Trump administration is going to share the data.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they're like, that just shows that Schellenberger is, you know, it's like pro-Trump and whatever. And I was like, no, I'm just like pro-disclosure. I want the expectations to be high because they should be high. There is so much information they're not releasing. So, you know, they were over Bedminster. And he's talked about it twice now, by the way. He's distressed about it, obviously.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

He's worried about it. So we're either headed for a pretty epic moment of disclosure. There's another part of me that worries. Okay, so it seems like, yeah, they could do disclosure and we could find out what it is. There could be aliens. If it's aliens, that's just a whole can of worms. And then you have to be like, do we talk to them? And if so, who's doing that? Do you think we have? No.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know. I mean, there's this guy named, I can't remember his first name, Stringfield. He wrote this incredible thick book of UAP crashes, crash retrievals. And he started doing it, I want to say, 50s or 60s. And I think he went for like multiple decades. And you just sit down with that book and it is like...