Michael Shellenberger

And I'm sure the official story is everything we need to know. So, you know, you sort of go... And what was his conclusion on UFOs? Well, it was very... It's the... The narrative is that they don't know what they are. So he doesn't fully... He's not like a debunker, like these guys who are like, oh, we can explain everything. So he's much more sophisticated than that.

And I'm sure the official story is everything we need to know. So, you know, you sort of go... And what was his conclusion on UFOs? Well, it was very... It's the... The narrative is that they don't know what they are. So he doesn't fully... He's not like a debunker, like these guys who are like, oh, we can explain everything. So he's much more sophisticated than that.

And I'm sure the official story is everything we need to know. So, you know, you sort of go... And what was his conclusion on UFOs? Well, it was very... It's the... The narrative is that they don't know what they are. So he doesn't fully... He's not like a debunker, like these guys who are like, oh, we can explain everything. So he's much more sophisticated than that.

But it's basically a debunking. It's basically that... It's basically that it's just all the typical explanations and then maybe some U.S. military programs. But he also just says that he just argues that the U.S. military doesn't know what it is. I don't believe Garrett Graff.

But it's basically a debunking. It's basically that... It's basically that it's just all the typical explanations and then maybe some U.S. military programs. But he also just says that he just argues that the U.S. military doesn't know what it is. I don't believe Garrett Graff.

But it's basically a debunking. It's basically that... It's basically that it's just all the typical explanations and then maybe some U.S. military programs. But he also just says that he just argues that the U.S. military doesn't know what it is. I don't believe Garrett Graff.

And the reason I don't believe Garrett Graff is because I saw him participate in a disinformation campaign on Hunter Biden laptop. And I know for a fact there's something else going on. at that Aspen Institute program. And Aspen Institute, of course, is a massive U.S. government-funded NGO that cosplays as a kind of bourgeois gab fest.

And the reason I don't believe Garrett Graff is because I saw him participate in a disinformation campaign on Hunter Biden laptop. And I know for a fact there's something else going on. at that Aspen Institute program. And Aspen Institute, of course, is a massive U.S. government-funded NGO that cosplays as a kind of bourgeois gab fest.

And the reason I don't believe Garrett Graff is because I saw him participate in a disinformation campaign on Hunter Biden laptop. And I know for a fact there's something else going on. at that Aspen Institute program. And Aspen Institute, of course, is a massive U.S. government-funded NGO that cosplays as a kind of bourgeois gab fest.

So there I mean, so I'm like that was for me, that was all came out on the Twitter files. I discovered that in the Twitter files. And for me, it was like pulling back the curtain.

So there I mean, so I'm like that was for me, that was all came out on the Twitter files. I discovered that in the Twitter files. And for me, it was like pulling back the curtain.

So there I mean, so I'm like that was for me, that was all came out on the Twitter files. I discovered that in the Twitter files. And for me, it was like pulling back the curtain.

And you actually have as a journalist like you, we have the emails, you know, like you have the documents, you have the tabletop exercise where they're brainwashing journalists into believing a lie about the Hunter Biden laptop.

And you actually have as a journalist like you, we have the emails, you know, like you have the documents, you have the tabletop exercise where they're brainwashing journalists into believing a lie about the Hunter Biden laptop.

And you actually have as a journalist like you, we have the emails, you know, like you have the documents, you have the tabletop exercise where they're brainwashing journalists into believing a lie about the Hunter Biden laptop.

that was so sophisticated of that because they basically go and brainwash journalists before the story comes out because they know they're listening to giuliani you know their fbi tap on juliana they're listening to julian they had they knew they had to go brainwash the journalists they go get all the journalists from all the major outlets plus the social media platforms in these seminars where they program them

that was so sophisticated of that because they basically go and brainwash journalists before the story comes out because they know they're listening to giuliani you know their fbi tap on juliana they're listening to julian they had they knew they had to go brainwash the journalists they go get all the journalists from all the major outlets plus the social media platforms in these seminars where they program them

that was so sophisticated of that because they basically go and brainwash journalists before the story comes out because they know they're listening to giuliani you know their fbi tap on juliana they're listening to julian they had they knew they had to go brainwash the journalists they go get all the journalists from all the major outlets plus the social media platforms in these seminars where they program them

Um, I mean, that was like, for me, it was like, wow, there's like a secret government. Like it was like, there's some, there's like a whole, there's like a whole, it's a very, and it was very just sophisticated. I don't know what else to describe it. Like it was very, everything seemed very careful. Also with all the censorship stuff, you see these limited hangouts, right?

Um, I mean, that was like, for me, it was like, wow, there's like a secret government. Like it was like, there's some, there's like a whole, there's like a whole, it's a very, and it was very just sophisticated. I don't know what else to describe it. Like it was very, everything seemed very careful. Also with all the censorship stuff, you see these limited hangouts, right?