Michael Shellenberger

Vance and Trump are further along in that thinking than anybody. But honestly, it's not like there's a consensus even within the Republican Party about what the United States' role in the world should be in this post-Pax Americana, post-Cold War period. Yeah.

Vance and Trump are further along in that thinking than anybody. But honestly, it's not like there's a consensus even within the Republican Party about what the United States' role in the world should be in this post-Pax Americana, post-Cold War period. Yeah.

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Yeah, well, there's a lot there. I mean, I think to start with, we say, we hear a lot, waste, fraud, and abuse, right? as though they're kind of all equal. Waste is inevitable to any system. You try to reduce it, but one of the things we find is that you can waste more energy trying to reduce waste.

Yeah, well, there's a lot there. I mean, I think to start with, we say, we hear a lot, waste, fraud, and abuse, right? as though they're kind of all equal. Waste is inevitable to any system. You try to reduce it, but one of the things we find is that you can waste more energy trying to reduce waste.

Yeah, well, there's a lot there. I mean, I think to start with, we say, we hear a lot, waste, fraud, and abuse, right? as though they're kind of all equal. Waste is inevitable to any system. You try to reduce it, but one of the things we find is that you can waste more energy trying to reduce waste.

It's often why when you go to these studies of buildings and whatever, there's a high level of energy efficiency. You can always get more efficiency out of a building. And they always go, well, if we put more energy and time into reducing efficiency, yeah, but then you wouldn't be running your business anymore, right? So there's like, you can waste time trying to deal with the waste.

It's often why when you go to these studies of buildings and whatever, there's a high level of energy efficiency. You can always get more efficiency out of a building. And they always go, well, if we put more energy and time into reducing efficiency, yeah, but then you wouldn't be running your business anymore, right? So there's like, you can waste time trying to deal with the waste.

It's often why when you go to these studies of buildings and whatever, there's a high level of energy efficiency. You can always get more efficiency out of a building. And they always go, well, if we put more energy and time into reducing efficiency, yeah, but then you wouldn't be running your business anymore, right? So there's like, you can waste time trying to deal with the waste.

Then there's fraud. That's bad. That shows... not just a kind of, you know, I think people tend to think of fraud like, oh, the police haven't done a good enough job or the police are corrupted. It represents a weakening and corruption of the body, of the system, that you're actually, as you said before, there's always parasites, there's always viruses.

Then there's fraud. That's bad. That shows... not just a kind of, you know, I think people tend to think of fraud like, oh, the police haven't done a good enough job or the police are corrupted. It represents a weakening and corruption of the body, of the system, that you're actually, as you said before, there's always parasites, there's always viruses.

Then there's fraud. That's bad. That shows... not just a kind of, you know, I think people tend to think of fraud like, oh, the police haven't done a good enough job or the police are corrupted. It represents a weakening and corruption of the body, of the system, that you're actually, as you said before, there's always parasites, there's always viruses.

When the host becomes vulnerable and weakened and old and prone to disease is when you're prone to fraud. And then you get... the worst of them all by far, which is abuse, by which is abuse of power. And we are coming out of a period of extreme abuse of powers. I mean, we can debate the period of time that's relevant. I think the last 12 years, we should think of it as a woke reign of terror.

When the host becomes vulnerable and weakened and old and prone to disease is when you're prone to fraud. And then you get... the worst of them all by far, which is abuse, by which is abuse of power. And we are coming out of a period of extreme abuse of powers. I mean, we can debate the period of time that's relevant. I think the last 12 years, we should think of it as a woke reign of terror.

When the host becomes vulnerable and weakened and old and prone to disease is when you're prone to fraud. And then you get... the worst of them all by far, which is abuse, by which is abuse of power. And we are coming out of a period of extreme abuse of powers. I mean, we can debate the period of time that's relevant. I think the last 12 years, we should think of it as a woke reign of terror.

meaning a period of great fear, certainly universities, media, wokeism. I mean, it really, it starts with Black Lives Matter, ends with the election of President Trump in 2024. That was a period of abuse of power. Every single major institution, medical power, educational power, media power, political power. And what gets revealed when Elon and Trump break open the U.S.

meaning a period of great fear, certainly universities, media, wokeism. I mean, it really, it starts with Black Lives Matter, ends with the election of President Trump in 2024. That was a period of abuse of power. Every single major institution, medical power, educational power, media power, political power. And what gets revealed when Elon and Trump break open the U.S.

meaning a period of great fear, certainly universities, media, wokeism. I mean, it really, it starts with Black Lives Matter, ends with the election of President Trump in 2024. That was a period of abuse of power. Every single major institution, medical power, educational power, media power, political power. And what gets revealed when Elon and Trump break open the U.S.