Michael Tracey

But this whole concept of a sweetheart deal is a total canard that was popularized by Julian K. Brown.

But this whole concept of a sweetheart deal is a total canard that was popularized by Julian K. Brown.

I will answer that.

I will answer that.

However, I do want to just stipulate up front that I think this reflex to have to offer some kind of totalistic assessment of who Jeffrey Epstein was at his very essence has fed into so much of the constant churn of algorithmic slop that has generated this hysterical frenzy around this issue and has led to people being totally deluded by what we're even talking about.

However, I do want to just stipulate up front that I think this reflex to have to offer some kind of totalistic assessment of who Jeffrey Epstein was at his very essence has fed into so much of the constant churn of algorithmic slop that has generated this hysterical frenzy around this issue and has led to people being totally deluded by what we're even talking about.

What do most people... I have some surmises about Jeffrey Epstein.

What do most people... I have some surmises about Jeffrey Epstein.

He definitely was a money manager who, as you mentioned, was sort of like this zealot character who did have an extraordinary cross-section of connections with people from across fields.

He definitely was a money manager who, as you mentioned, was sort of like this zealot character who did have an extraordinary cross-section of connections with people from across fields.

I just was looking through some of these records in the new Epstein Files productions, and I was looking for something else, but there are

I just was looking through some of these records in the new Epstein Files productions, and I was looking for something else, but there are

There's an archive of these old message pads that he had at his Palm Beach house.

There's an archive of these old message pads that he had at his Palm Beach house.

And I'm scrolling through, and it turns out Holly Berry left him a couple of messages.

And I'm scrolling through, and it turns out Holly Berry left him a couple of messages.

I had no idea that Holly Berry was ever in contact with Jeffrey Epstein.

I had no idea that Holly Berry was ever in contact with Jeffrey Epstein.

So you can always find somebody new and novel who apparently had one dealing or another with him.

So you can always find somebody new and novel who apparently had one dealing or another with him.