Michael Vaughan

are nice horses but you know they they when you can work in a partnership with a with an animal like that it is incredible somehow the communication that's what really gripped me about the yeah the whole thing how you communicate with a horse you know literally with dressage i found it incredible it's john howard in there by the way he is yeah do you know when he handed out those world cup medals

The glee.

I mean, I must have made an impression on you.

You went, did you play in that?

I was like, I did.

It's been a while since I've seen you.

How are you?

Actually, I've still got a bit sore on my neck from you strangling me.

I've never seen... I get on well with him.

He does love cricket.

He does, yeah.

But the way he...

handed out those medals he was furious but what a day that was for sport as well yeah look it was incredible I think you know and for it to happen the way that it happened and you know going to extra time and then you know obviously golden balls at Johnny hitting that drop goal it was always made to be is it true that it was fed the wrong way or something no so he'd missed two off his left drop his off his left so then he decided to show off and hit one off his right to win it from 40 yeah

I mean, that's just, it's sort of annoying, isn't it?

Yeah.

I always feel sorry for Matt Dawson because he made that break.

And Dawson's generally one-on-one exceptionally good, and he didn't round the fullback.

Just imagine if Dawson round the fullback and he scored.

We'd never heard the end of it.

Suddenly the hero looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings.