Michael Weiss

Epstein was almost like his own private intel shop, in addition to being, you know, a Bond villain and a pedophile with an island.

Yeah.

Well, no, I wouldn't say cute.

He also seems pretty chummy with Noam Chomsky.

And, you know, people you wouldn't

ordinarily expect somebody of this sort of species to to actually that's not true i mean again he's he was so kind of promiscuous in his dealings with everybody um for the sake of his own ego and his own self-gratification that tracks you know i mean the guy was i would say he was a sociopath right sort of the classic mold of one of these international meta mystery leaving aside even the horrible things that he did that's just who he is

The Russians deal with people like this all the time.

I mean, they're either called oligarchs or syloviki, you know, strongmen in positions of power, usually who come from security services, who then go off and do things in private enterprise.

And they end up acting as liaisons or plenipotentiaries, if you want to use a grandiose term for it, for the Kremlin, right?

Dictatorships tend to spawn these kinds of creatures.

So unfortunately, the United States, prior to becoming more authoritarian under Trump,

but certainly it accelerates now.

We have creatures like this.

I mean, in fact, I wanted to talk to you about exactly that in the form of Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.

And Kirill Dmitriev.

That's a great transition.

Good podcasting.

Nice segue there, man.

Wow, I didn't even see that one coming.

Epstein to Ukraine.