Michael Whitaker

This sloppiness, this incompetence, this disrespect for our intelligence agencies and the personnel who work for them is entirely unacceptable. It's an embarrassment.

This sloppiness, this incompetence, this disrespect for our intelligence agencies and the personnel who work for them is entirely unacceptable. It's an embarrassment.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having me.

Sure. I mean, what just got released was a memo sent from the former head of MI6, which is the UK's version of the CIA. And it was sent with a very well-known and respected professor from London School of Economics in early 2020 that essentially debunked this Nature article called Proximal Origin, which claimed to have debunked that the virus came from a lab.

Sure. I mean, what just got released was a memo sent from the former head of MI6, which is the UK's version of the CIA. And it was sent with a very well-known and respected professor from London School of Economics in early 2020 that essentially debunked this Nature article called Proximal Origin, which claimed to have debunked that the virus came from a lab.

We had done earlier reporting on this way back in 2023, showing that There was higher ups, to use the language of the key authors, Christian Anderson, who had basically changed the direction that they were going in their research.

We had done earlier reporting on this way back in 2023, showing that There was higher ups, to use the language of the key authors, Christian Anderson, who had basically changed the direction that they were going in their research.

In fact, that there was a slack channel that was essentially named after the lab leak that then they changed the name to Pangolin, which was imagined at the time to be the intermediary between bats and humans. And so we already knew that this proximal origin paper was manipulated, I would say, and that the people writing it were told by higher-ups to change their findings.

In fact, that there was a slack channel that was essentially named after the lab leak that then they changed the name to Pangolin, which was imagined at the time to be the intermediary between bats and humans. And so we already knew that this proximal origin paper was manipulated, I would say, and that the people writing it were told by higher-ups to change their findings.

Well, now we have this British memo, again, from the former head of MI6, saying that, a very extraordinary memo, actually, and the language was strong. It says that the Chinese government is engaged in an information and influence operation to deflect responsibility. The memo says, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Wuhan Institute of Virology retro-engineered a bat virus in January 2020.

Well, now we have this British memo, again, from the former head of MI6, saying that, a very extraordinary memo, actually, and the language was strong. It says that the Chinese government is engaged in an information and influence operation to deflect responsibility. The memo says, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Wuhan Institute of Virology retro-engineered a bat virus in January 2020.

We surmise that this was done to align with COVID-19 to sustain the natural causation narrative. So, you know, the implications of this conspiracy, I think it's the correct word in this case, are pretty significant because it would suggest that you now have the US, UK, Chinese, and German governments who all knew that the virus escaped from the lab arguably in January, as early as January.

We surmise that this was done to align with COVID-19 to sustain the natural causation narrative. So, you know, the implications of this conspiracy, I think it's the correct word in this case, are pretty significant because it would suggest that you now have the US, UK, Chinese, and German governments who all knew that the virus escaped from the lab arguably in January, as early as January.

And we had reported that the U.S. intelligence community had known, in fact, the names of the first three people to be infected by the COVID virus, and that didn't come out.

And we had reported that the U.S. intelligence community had known, in fact, the names of the first three people to be infected by the COVID virus, and that didn't come out.

So, I mean, this is significant both because it obviously implicates a number of senior American officials, including Anthony Fauci, but it may have meant that our response to the virus may have been different had we known that it had come from a lab.

So, I mean, this is significant both because it obviously implicates a number of senior American officials, including Anthony Fauci, but it may have meant that our response to the virus may have been different had we known that it had come from a lab.

Yeah, and not only that, but that it was multiple agencies that knew that in the United States and then multiple intelligence agencies around the world.

Yeah, and not only that, but that it was multiple agencies that knew that in the United States and then multiple intelligence agencies around the world.