Michael Whitaker
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I mean, it's worth noting that just less than a week ago and just a few days before the British announcement, two major newspapers in Germany revealed that the German Foreign Intelligence Service, their version of the CIA, had also believed that there was a 80 to 90% chance that the coronavirus had leaked from a Chinese lab.
I mean, it's worth noting that just less than a week ago and just a few days before the British announcement, two major newspapers in Germany revealed that the German Foreign Intelligence Service, their version of the CIA, had also believed that there was a 80 to 90% chance that the coronavirus had leaked from a Chinese lab.
So we don't know if that was all relying on the same intel or if it was different intel, but you certainly had many intelligence agencies in different countries all concluding the same thing.
So we don't know if that was all relying on the same intel or if it was different intel, but you certainly had many intelligence agencies in different countries all concluding the same thing.
Yeah, oh, 100%. Nature's been behaving badly in a number of areas, basically showing that they have a political agenda that they put before science. But I mean, the entire scientific establishment is implicated by this. You know, the most important figure in it all is Anthony Fauci.
Yeah, oh, 100%. Nature's been behaving badly in a number of areas, basically showing that they have a political agenda that they put before science. But I mean, the entire scientific establishment is implicated by this. You know, the most important figure in it all is Anthony Fauci.
You know, there's a video of him in 2020 saying, when I heard that this coronavirus had come from Wuhan, the first thing I thought was wet market. Well, I just... I mean, that's like absurd. He's the one that basically skirted the U.S. ban on coronavirus gain-of-function research, moved it to China, and moved it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
You know, there's a video of him in 2020 saying, when I heard that this coronavirus had come from Wuhan, the first thing I thought was wet market. Well, I just... I mean, that's like absurd. He's the one that basically skirted the U.S. ban on coronavirus gain-of-function research, moved it to China, and moved it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
So I'm sure that when he heard that there was a coronavirus here from Wuhan, his thought was not wet market. It was Wuhan Institute of Virology. And, oh, God, I can't believe that this happened. And, you know, you sort of see it, and he just looks...
So I'm sure that when he heard that there was a coronavirus here from Wuhan, his thought was not wet market. It was Wuhan Institute of Virology. And, oh, God, I can't believe that this happened. And, you know, you sort of see it, and he just looks...
You just kind of look at it now, obviously, in context, and it just appears to be this is one of the most significant cover-ups of the last 100, 200 years. I mean, it's hard to find a bigger one.
You just kind of look at it now, obviously, in context, and it just appears to be this is one of the most significant cover-ups of the last 100, 200 years. I mean, it's hard to find a bigger one.
Well, I think people are correctly angry because the person that wrote it is somebody who essentially got the CDC to reverse its position on masks. Now, we don't think that mask mandates had any effect. And of course, we think that they actually had a pretty significant negative effect, particularly on children. Obviously, it led to a whole set of culture wars. It became a kind of symbol.
Well, I think people are correctly angry because the person that wrote it is somebody who essentially got the CDC to reverse its position on masks. Now, we don't think that mask mandates had any effect. And of course, we think that they actually had a pretty significant negative effect, particularly on children. Obviously, it led to a whole set of culture wars. It became a kind of symbol.
This is Zeynep Tufekci, who wrote this article. And so I I think, you know, the grammar in particular, which was we were badly misled, rubbed people the wrong way since people think that it was the New York Times who badly misled people.
This is Zeynep Tufekci, who wrote this article. And so I I think, you know, the grammar in particular, which was we were badly misled, rubbed people the wrong way since people think that it was the New York Times who badly misled people.
I mean, I observed something else, which I think is just as important, which is that the last several weeks we've had the media just raising the alarm that Trump is going to cut funding for medical research.
I mean, I observed something else, which I think is just as important, which is that the last several weeks we've had the media just raising the alarm that Trump is going to cut funding for medical research.
There's actually a dispute about that because the real issue is that they're demanding that the National Institutes of Health reduce the so-called indirect costs, which are supposedly overhead, to just 15 percent of the project rather than, you know, in some cases it's 50 percent or more, which is just clearly overcharging. Well, here you have a very concrete situation where you have U.S.,
There's actually a dispute about that because the real issue is that they're demanding that the National Institutes of Health reduce the so-called indirect costs, which are supposedly overhead, to just 15 percent of the project rather than, you know, in some cases it's 50 percent or more, which is just clearly overcharging. Well, here you have a very concrete situation where you have U.S.,