Global Coverup? Fresh Claims on Covid Origins | 3.22.25
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What are the new claims about Covid-19 origins?
New reports revealed over the last week that credible sources in both Germany and the UK allegedly informed government officials that the COVID virus escaped from the infamous Wuhan lab. The revelations have sparked renewed calls for investigations into who knew what, when, and increased demands for accountability.
In this episode, we speak with journalist and author Michael Schellenberger about the new evidence of a COVID cover-up and the media backlash for its role in pushing false narratives. I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Saturday, March 22nd, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire. Joining us now to discuss the new claims about government cover-ups related to the origins of the COVID virus is independent journalist and author Michael Schellenberger. Hey, Michael, thank you so much for joining us.
Who is Michael Schellenberger and what does he reveal?
Thanks for having me.
So let's start with what we just found out from the UK related to the origins of the coronavirus. What did we just learn and how does this change the way we think about how the UK in particular handled this situation?
What new evidence has emerged from the UK?
Sure. I mean, what just got released was a memo sent from the former head of MI6, which is the UK's version of the CIA. And it was sent with a very well-known and respected professor from London School of Economics in early 2020 that essentially debunked this Nature article called Proximal Origin, which claimed to have debunked that the virus came from a lab. We had done earlier reporting on this way back in 2023, showing that There was higher ups, to use the language of the key authors, Christian Anderson, who had basically changed the direction that they were going in their research. In fact, that there was a slack channel that was essentially named after the lab leak that then they changed the name to Pangolin, which was imagined at the time to be the intermediary between bats and humans. And so we already knew that this proximal origin paper was manipulated, I would say, and that the people writing it were told by higher-ups to change their findings.
How does the UK memo challenge previous narratives?
Well, now we have this British memo, again, from the former head of MI6, saying that, a very extraordinary memo, actually, and the language was strong. It says that the Chinese government is engaged in an information and influence operation to deflect responsibility. The memo says, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Wuhan Institute of Virology retro-engineered a bat virus in January 2020. We surmise that this was done to align with COVID-19 to sustain the natural causation narrative. So, you know, the implications of this conspiracy, I think it's the correct word in this case, are pretty significant because it would suggest that you now have the US, UK, Chinese, and German governments who all knew that the virus escaped from the lab arguably in January, as early as January.
And we had reported that the U.S. intelligence community had known, in fact, the names of the first three people to be infected by the COVID virus, and that didn't come out. So, I mean, this is significant both because it obviously implicates a number of senior American officials, including Anthony Fauci, but it may have meant that our response to the virus may have been different had we known that it had come from a lab.
And to be clear, you're saying January 2020, there's evidence that they knew all the way back then that this most likely came from the Wuhan lab.
Yeah, and not only that, but that it was multiple agencies that knew that in the United States and then multiple intelligence agencies around the world.
What are the implications of the German intelligence reports?
I mean, it's worth noting that just less than a week ago and just a few days before the British announcement, two major newspapers in Germany revealed that the German Foreign Intelligence Service, their version of the CIA, had also believed that there was a 80 to 90% chance that the coronavirus had leaked from a Chinese lab. So we don't know if that was all relying on the same intel or if it was different intel, but you certainly had many intelligence agencies in different countries all concluding the same thing.
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Chapters
7 chapters
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What are the new claims about Covid-19 origins?
0:03–0:57
2
Who is Michael Schellenberger and what does he reveal?
0:57–1:08
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What new evidence has emerged from the UK?
1:08–2:19
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How does the UK memo challenge previous narratives?
2:19–3:48
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What are the implications of the German intelligence reports?
3:48–5:08
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How has the journal Nature's credibility been affected?
5:08–6:36
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What role did Anthony Fauci play in the Covid-19 controversy?
6:36–11:22
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