Michael Wolff

And he sat for many, many hours of discussion with me. I mean, certainly 80, 90, probably a hundred hours I have of Epstein on tape. And one of the discussions, because this was occurring, Trump became the president in 2017. I began writing about Trump. And so we spent a lot of time talking about Donald Trump and Epstein's relationship with Trump, which went on for a good, certainly 15 years.

And he sat for many, many hours of discussion with me. I mean, certainly 80, 90, probably a hundred hours I have of Epstein on tape. And one of the discussions, because this was occurring, Trump became the president in 2017. I began writing about Trump. And so we spent a lot of time talking about Donald Trump and Epstein's relationship with Trump, which went on for a good, certainly 15 years.

and was incredibly close. They were, you know, each other's closest friend for a very long time. And Epstein, you know, I think Epstein is one of those people who truly knew Donald Trump, knew many secrets about Donald Trump, and was threatening to Donald Trump.

and was incredibly close. They were, you know, each other's closest friend for a very long time. And Epstein, you know, I think Epstein is one of those people who truly knew Donald Trump, knew many secrets about Donald Trump, and was threatening to Donald Trump.

and was incredibly close. They were, you know, each other's closest friend for a very long time. And Epstein, you know, I think Epstein is one of those people who truly knew Donald Trump, knew many secrets about Donald Trump, and was threatening to Donald Trump.

So actually, so at this moment in the White House, you know, the whole MAGA people think, oh, Epstein, and this is a conspiracy and the, you know, pedophilias, all Democrats are pedophiles or whatever. But at the same time, Trump is totally freaked out about the Epstein thing. And, you know, I mean, they were very close friends.

So actually, so at this moment in the White House, you know, the whole MAGA people think, oh, Epstein, and this is a conspiracy and the, you know, pedophilias, all Democrats are pedophiles or whatever. But at the same time, Trump is totally freaked out about the Epstein thing. And, you know, I mean, they were very close friends.

So actually, so at this moment in the White House, you know, the whole MAGA people think, oh, Epstein, and this is a conspiracy and the, you know, pedophilias, all Democrats are pedophiles or whatever. But at the same time, Trump is totally freaked out about the Epstein thing. And, you know, I mean, they were very close friends.

There's a moment in my last book where I talk about Trump talking to his people about what Ghislaine Maxwell might have on him and what she might say and should he pardon her.

There's a moment in my last book where I talk about Trump talking to his people about what Ghislaine Maxwell might have on him and what she might say and should he pardon her.

There's a moment in my last book where I talk about Trump talking to his people about what Ghislaine Maxwell might have on him and what she might say and should he pardon her.

I mean, Trump weaved in and out of all conversations. And remember, and also there's a lot in these tapes of Steve Bannon, who became very friendly with Epstein. So it's Bannon and Trump, Bannon and Epstein also talking about Trump, which was their kind of bond.

I mean, Trump weaved in and out of all conversations. And remember, and also there's a lot in these tapes of Steve Bannon, who became very friendly with Epstein. So it's Bannon and Trump, Bannon and Epstein also talking about Trump, which was their kind of bond.

I mean, Trump weaved in and out of all conversations. And remember, and also there's a lot in these tapes of Steve Bannon, who became very friendly with Epstein. So it's Bannon and Trump, Bannon and Epstein also talking about Trump, which was their kind of bond.

I mean, they both they both they're both kind of incredulous about the character of Donald Trump and that this character became the president of the United States.

I mean, they both they both they're both kind of incredulous about the character of Donald Trump and that this character became the president of the United States.

I mean, they both they both they're both kind of incredulous about the character of Donald Trump and that this character became the president of the United States.

Yeah, you know, this is a funny thing because I have really tried to find venues for this material for quite a number of years now. And everybody kind of gets excited about it because it's kind of riveting stuff. And then everybody goes, oh, but, you know, it's Epstein. We can't do Epstein because he's – And in project after project kind of kind of meets it's it's an untimely end.

Yeah, you know, this is a funny thing because I have really tried to find venues for this material for quite a number of years now. And everybody kind of gets excited about it because it's kind of riveting stuff. And then everybody goes, oh, but, you know, it's Epstein. We can't do Epstein because he's – And in project after project kind of kind of meets it's it's an untimely end.

Yeah, you know, this is a funny thing because I have really tried to find venues for this material for quite a number of years now. And everybody kind of gets excited about it because it's kind of riveting stuff. And then everybody goes, oh, but, you know, it's Epstein. We can't do Epstein because he's – And in project after project kind of kind of meets it's it's an untimely end.