Michael Wolff

And we continued our relationship right up until he was arrested.

And then a month later after his arrest,

he died.

And during this long period of time, from 2014 to 2019, many of our conversations, and obviously with his knowledge, were recorded.

And those are recordings that I now have.

Well, as I say, he was enormously detailed about his relationship.

He was, I mean, obviously, Donald Trump had

had was about to become or was in the process of becoming the president and then became the president.

So this became obviously a substantial fact in Jeffrey Epstein's life.

His best friend had become the president.

Now, this was a friendship that stopped

over a dispute, a real estate dispute in 2004, and they became bitter enemies.

And briefly, and I recount this in one of my books,

Jeffrey Epstein believed himself to be the top bidder for a piece of real estate in Palm Beach in 2004.

He had bid $36 million for this Palm Beach house.

He took his friend Donald Trump over to advise him on the logistics of moving the swimming pool.

His friend Trump then immediately went around his back and bid $40 million for the House and got the House.

Epstein, on his part, believed and Epstein had pretty intimate knowledge of Trump's financial basis.

I mean, they were involved with deals together.

Epstein was among Trump's business advisors, in essence.