Michael Wolff

Many people of influence and note were showing up.

But he wanted to continue this rehabilitation, and he figured if someone wrote about him, that would help.

And I said, well, actually, I'm probably not the person, and I'm probably not interested in that.

And he said, that's fine.

You know, I certainly didn't have to make a decision.

And he said, well, why don't if you're interested, why don't you just come whenever you'd like to talk to me?

See if my story is interesting to you.

See if you feel that I'm straightforward.

And also, there's many interesting people who come to my house.

And if you're interested, I will invite you on occasion.

Anyway, nothing not to be not interested in here.

And I said, you know, yeah, sure.

No commitments necessary.

And we did begin to talk.

And he did begin to invite me to some interesting gatherings at his house.

And I was, you know, I was, you know, his story was certainly interesting.

You could not help but be somewhat interested by this story.

But then, and this rolls into your next question, in 2015, Donald Trump started a run for president.

I started to cover his campaign, and that would ultimately be he would obviously win, and I started to cover his years in the White House.

And Epstein at that point and our relationship had been relatively infrequent.