Michele Norris

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715 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 20 Jun

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The Rachel Maddow Show · MS NOW Exclusive | Hope Comes Home: Inside the Obama Presidential Center - Part 1 · 20 Jun 2026 podcast

What was the thought process that led you there?

Because that is unusual.

Well, yeah, for folks who come to visit, the first thing they'll actually see is, in the museum, is a copy of the Declaration of Independence.

And...

And a pretty long description and displays of the struggle to realize that ideal that's embodied in the Declaration.

But hopefully what they'll also see, even when the exhibits are about my presidency, that there were people who disagreed with what I did.

That...

There was a lot of unfinished business in my presidency.

And you talk about that.

And that there was something like the Tea Party that emerges during my presidency, and it's useful for people to understand where does that come from.

But I do think it's important to ground what happened during my presidency in this broader sweep of American history.

And as I said before...

You know, this idea that, you know, on the right, and you see this in the Trump administration, this idea that any suggestion or criticism that America was anything other than perfect is unpatriotic.

Is a suggestion that you hate your country.

Now, the flip side is, among progressives, sometimes there is this sense of, well...

The only true narrative of America is this one of oppression and exclusion.

And I reject both those views.

I think it's complicated.

As I said, I think it's possible to celebrate the founders and appreciate what they did, as well as look objectively and critically at...

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