Michelle Huntington

And quite often it's a human thing that was the problem, not a mechanical thing.

And even how we handle it.

And I'm imagining it again in the heavy machinery world and in mining, you know, safety is a number one thing because there is loss of mileage and also loss of, you know, millions of dollars of machinery if one rolled over.

That's a huge loss.

I think one of the important things, especially for leaders and even the leader of the home, you know, parents to their kids is owning up when they stuff up.

So it's that if you can say, look, when I was, you know, and I sound like I thought I'll never sound like my parents.

And I say to my kids when I was young.

You know, about the mistakes and the stupid things I did and thankfully survived.

But you tell the story and even in business, you know, if you've got a CEO who admits to stuffing up earlier in their career, they become one more human, more approachable and people can see in themselves, yeah, I've done that or I've thought about doing that.

And they may be more connected, so more willing to communicate.

And I think you mentioned earlier about how people are worried about being seen as being wrong.

And they do have that hesitation because they don't want to come across as being either wrong or silly, you know, maybe imposter syndrome.

I shouldn't be here.

So if I stay quiet, no one will know that I'm not meant to be here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

With all the LinkedIn's and, you know, I'm this and I'm that and glorifying what they do.

It is hard.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, look, part of the thing is, is what am I actually deciding?

What am I making a decision on?