Michelle Kaplan
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It is.
That is a.
It's very painful.
So people know what that means, right?
People know exactly what that means.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
So definitely, this is something that we want to avoid.
Yes, yes, exactly.
And I did find that episode number.
So I'm going to give that out to you guys at the end of the episode.
So you can listen to how we got to this episode, really.
So yeah, um,
What is another thing that someone might say that is the same type of idea?
Right, right.
I mean, or depends on who's coming.
Either one you might hear.
Um, or who else has said yes.
Yeah.