Michelle Martins (Interviewee)

We were going to celebrate it today. Okay.

We were going to celebrate it today. Okay.

We were going to celebrate it today. Okay.

It is.

It is.

It is.

I came out of my mother-in-law, and now I have to.

I came out of my mother-in-law, and now I have to.

I came out of my mother-in-law, and now I have to.

Because I always said if I had a girl, I'd name her Victoria.

Because I always said if I had a girl, I'd name her Victoria.

Because I always said if I had a girl, I'd name her Victoria.

I'm worried about my life now, too. Well, can you kind of tell me why you're worried? Because now I'm afraid they're going to come back and kill me. I don't even want to say, oh, no. I want to get out of there.

I'm worried about my life now, too. Well, can you kind of tell me why you're worried? Because now I'm afraid they're going to come back and kill me. I don't even want to say, oh, no. I want to get out of there.

I'm worried about my life now, too. Well, can you kind of tell me why you're worried? Because now I'm afraid they're going to come back and kill me. I don't even want to say, oh, no. I want to get out of there.

Victoria come home, and when did you notice that was gone? She gets home about 4.30, because the bus gets there about 4. So she went to her friend's house, because she didn't see me at the bus stop. And her friend sent her back to the house around 4.30, 4.45, around there. And that's about the time that me and Fabian, we got back about 4.50, 5 o'clock, around there.

Victoria come home, and when did you notice that was gone? She gets home about 4.30, because the bus gets there about 4. So she went to her friend's house, because she didn't see me at the bus stop. And her friend sent her back to the house around 4.30, 4.45, around there. And that's about the time that me and Fabian, we got back about 4.50, 5 o'clock, around there.

Victoria come home, and when did you notice that was gone? She gets home about 4.30, because the bus gets there about 4. So she went to her friend's house, because she didn't see me at the bus stop. And her friend sent her back to the house around 4.30, 4.45, around there. And that's about the time that me and Fabian, we got back about 4.50, 5 o'clock, around there.

And where were you and Fabian at? We went to his uncle's. Okay. And we came back and that's when I sat on the table. Okay.

And where were you and Fabian at? We went to his uncle's. Okay. And we came back and that's when I sat on the table. Okay.

And where were you and Fabian at? We went to his uncle's. Okay. And we came back and that's when I sat on the table. Okay.

Take your time. And I went to the restroom. And I came back and I was gone. And Victoria was the only one in the living room. So then she said she started feeling tired so she was going to go to bed. So she went in there.

Take your time. And I went to the restroom. And I came back and I was gone. And Victoria was the only one in the living room. So then she said she started feeling tired so she was going to go to bed. So she went in there.

Take your time. And I went to the restroom. And I came back and I was gone. And Victoria was the only one in the living room. So then she said she started feeling tired so she was going to go to bed. So she went in there.

Okay. And then we came back up.

Okay. And then we came back up.

Okay. And then we came back up.

I always checked on her. When I checked on her, she seemed to be breathing. Because I checked, I always look at her stomach. See, it was going up and down. And that was the last time that I checked on her. OK. Vivian said he was going to go check on her for me. So he went to go check on her. And that was the time she went to breathing. And that's when he told me, she's not breathing.

I always checked on her. When I checked on her, she seemed to be breathing. Because I checked, I always look at her stomach. See, it was going up and down. And that was the last time that I checked on her. OK. Vivian said he was going to go check on her for me. So he went to go check on her. And that was the time she went to breathing. And that's when he told me, she's not breathing.

I always checked on her. When I checked on her, she seemed to be breathing. Because I checked, I always look at her stomach. See, it was going up and down. And that was the last time that I checked on her. OK. Vivian said he was going to go check on her for me. So he went to go check on her. And that was the time she went to breathing. And that's when he told me, she's not breathing.

I got up and, what do you mean? She's not breathing. Okay. And then I looked up too, but didn't notice that the bag was gone. I was like, Did she get a hold of that? She might have. I was like, what was the only thing there?

I got up and, what do you mean? She's not breathing. Okay. And then I looked up too, but didn't notice that the bag was gone. I was like, Did she get a hold of that? She might have. I was like, what was the only thing there?

I got up and, what do you mean? She's not breathing. Okay. And then I looked up too, but didn't notice that the bag was gone. I was like, Did she get a hold of that? She might have. I was like, what was the only thing there?

At the living room table, the coffee table.

At the living room table, the coffee table.

At the living room table, the coffee table.

Okay. So I went to get the knife, and I asked her where she was going with that.

Okay. So I went to get the knife, and I asked her where she was going with that.

Okay. So I went to get the knife, and I asked her where she was going with that.

I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to call the cops because then they probably would have stopped me from trying to do that. Okay.

I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to call the cops because then they probably would have stopped me from trying to do that. Okay.

I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to call the cops because then they probably would have stopped me from trying to do that. Okay.

Because there was drugs in the house. Okay. And I didn't want them to think it was mine because it's not.

Because there was drugs in the house. Okay. And I didn't want them to think it was mine because it's not.

Because there was drugs in the house. Okay. And I didn't want them to think it was mine because it's not.

Was she dead? I'm so sorry. I know that this is not your fault.

Was she dead? I'm so sorry. I know that this is not your fault.

Was she dead? I'm so sorry. I know that this is not your fault.

And what did you guys decide to do with your daughter? With Victoria?

And what did you guys decide to do with your daughter? With Victoria?

And what did you guys decide to do with your daughter? With Victoria?

You forgot the discussion? Okay.

You forgot the discussion? Okay.

You forgot the discussion? Okay.

They said that if I say anything, they just kept threatening me. Okay. That if I say anything, I'm going to be the next one, or I better not fall asleep. So then I just left.

They said that if I say anything, they just kept threatening me. Okay. That if I say anything, I'm going to be the next one, or I better not fall asleep. So then I just left.

They said that if I say anything, they just kept threatening me. Okay. That if I say anything, I'm going to be the next one, or I better not fall asleep. So then I just left.

There was nothing else I could do. I didn't know what to do.

There was nothing else I could do. I didn't know what to do.

There was nothing else I could do. I didn't know what to do.

Before that, that was the time I saw Jessica stabbing her in the stomach. Okay. And then with the pillow over her head.

Before that, that was the time I saw Jessica stabbing her in the stomach. Okay. And then with the pillow over her head.

Before that, that was the time I saw Jessica stabbing her in the stomach. Okay. And then with the pillow over her head.

Because it's a grip to hold her hands. So was she already dead?

Because it's a grip to hold her hands. So was she already dead?

Because it's a grip to hold her hands. So was she already dead?

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

That they were going to kill me right there on the spot. Okay.

That they were going to kill me right there on the spot. Okay.

That they were going to kill me right there on the spot. Okay.

I couldn't. That's right. So I put your daughter to cut her arm. I left.

I couldn't. That's right. So I put your daughter to cut her arm. I left.

I couldn't. That's right. So I put your daughter to cut her arm. I left.

I went outside and

I went outside and

I went outside and

Then they started cleaning up.

Then they started cleaning up.

Then they started cleaning up.

I went in the kitchen.

I went in the kitchen.

I went in the kitchen.

Getting ready to make dinner. Making the tacos. Then Fabian took over after he was finished.

Getting ready to make dinner. Making the tacos. Then Fabian took over after he was finished.

Getting ready to make dinner. Making the tacos. Then Fabian took over after he was finished.

No, because they threaten me saying if I go near them that they're going to kill me.

No, because they threaten me saying if I go near them that they're going to kill me.

No, because they threaten me saying if I go near them that they're going to kill me.

Once the dinner is done, I go to my room and I eat. And I only ate one chunk of water.

Once the dinner is done, I go to my room and I eat. And I only ate one chunk of water.

Once the dinner is done, I go to my room and I eat. And I only ate one chunk of water.

So then I put the other one in the fridge. Okay. And then that's when I went back in the room. And I went to try it right out.

So then I put the other one in the fridge. Okay. And then that's when I went back in the room. And I went to try it right out.

So then I put the other one in the fridge. Okay. And then that's when I went back in the room. And I went to try it right out.

It was before we went to bed.

It was before we went to bed.

It was before we went to bed.

That was my ex-boyfriend.

That was my ex-boyfriend.

That was my ex-boyfriend.

Yes. And that's why I got rid of him. What's his name? David Hernandez.

Yes. And that's why I got rid of him. What's his name? David Hernandez.

Yes. And that's why I got rid of him. What's his name? David Hernandez.

I did quite a few.

I did quite a few.

I did quite a few.

They just put it in her mouth.

They just put it in her mouth.

They just put it in her mouth.

Like a couple days.

Like a couple days.

Like a couple days.

What were they doing?

What were they doing?

What were they doing?

I let them do it. You let them do it.

I let them do it. You let them do it.

I let them do it. You let them do it.

Not that I could see.

Not that I could see.

Not that I could see.

He must have been going on top of her.

He must have been going on top of her.

He must have been going on top of her.

With his on top. Did he put his in your daughter? Not inside, no.

With his on top. Did he put his in your daughter? Not inside, no.

With his on top. Did he put his in your daughter? Not inside, no.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

He had his shorts down with his shirt off.

He had his shorts down with his shirt off.

He had his shorts down with his shirt off.

She was holding her.

She was holding her.

She was holding her.

Her arms and her shoulders. So, and her feet. Baby was holding her feet. What were you holding?

Her arms and her shoulders. So, and her feet. Baby was holding her feet. What were you holding?

Her arms and her shoulders. So, and her feet. Baby was holding her feet. What were you holding?

On. On?

On. On?

On. On?

Stop, stop.

Stop, stop.

Stop, stop.

Just shut up.

Just shut up.

Just shut up.

He wasn't really saying much.

He wasn't really saying much.

He wasn't really saying much.

I should have stopped it.

I should have stopped it.

I should have stopped it.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

They killed her.

They killed her.

They killed her.

He covered her mouth.

He covered her mouth.

He covered her mouth.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

She finally could use the mouth tape. If he gets what?

She finally could use the mouth tape. If he gets what?

She finally could use the mouth tape. If he gets what?

Fabian and Jessica.

Fabian and Jessica.

Fabian and Jessica.

Whose hands were on her neck?

Whose hands were on her neck?

Whose hands were on her neck?

She wasn't moving.

She wasn't moving.

She wasn't moving.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

In the bedroom.

In the bedroom.

In the bedroom.

Whose bedroom? Hers. Hers?

Whose bedroom? Hers. Hers?

Whose bedroom? Hers. Hers?

I was clothed.

I was clothed.

I was clothed.

She had a...

She had a...

She had a...

It was Victoria. Who took Victoria's clothes off?

It was Victoria. Who took Victoria's clothes off?

It was Victoria. Who took Victoria's clothes off?

Then help. Because I wouldn't have to do that to my daughter.

Then help. Because I wouldn't have to do that to my daughter.

Then help. Because I wouldn't have to do that to my daughter.

Like three times?

Like three times?

Like three times?

I think it's probably more than that.

I think it's probably more than that.

I think it's probably more than that.

That I know about.

That I know about.

That I know about.

There was only that one.

There was only that one.

There was only that one.

Mostly.

Mostly.

Mostly.

There's one other guy, Joshua.

There's one other guy, Joshua.

There's one other guy, Joshua.