Mick Clifford
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Absolutely.
And that's in a context clear whereby
We all know what happened in Morris McCabe uh case.
We all know that a disclosure to tribunal.
And remember, a tribunal these days is a highly unusual instrument because of the cost and the past.
That's the only tribunal I can put my finger on
apart from maybe one other in the last twenty odd years.
So this was obviously very serious.
Beyond that, a commission on the future of policing was set up.
So everybody said this was a watershed in particular to a scenario whereby anybody who came forward and an unguarded Shia with reports of wrongdoing that they would be protected.
A specific architecture was set up and put in place.
And uh Donald Cochran whom you were talking to was central to that.
He was in the in the PD office running it within the Guardi.
So it's not a question that systems failed, and that comes up again and again.
This was a system that was set up specifically.
What appears to have failed is the willingness in senior management to follow through and to to act when these issues are brought to their attention.
Absolutely.
Th they're career cops, career career guardie.
They're people D Donald Carcran, he is he has a long history.
He went away and and he got a doctorate in the course of staying within the Guardi in order and you know, fantastic thing within the organization of people like that.
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