Mick

Or in a world of.

Right.

Exactly.

Absolutely, Matt.

And then the last one isn't necessarily a myth to debunk.

I just think it's a tip for the modern leader.

I've studied a lot of great leaders in the history of the world.

And I will say one of the things that from my viewpoint, all great leaders have done is they know their teams well.

Their individuals better than those individuals know them from a business, from a relationship standpoint.

And it goes back to a point that you made about communication is you have to listen.

So in order to know your team, you kind of got to talk to them.

You kind of got to talk to them.

And I think I see this with a lot of the Fortune 500 leaders that I work with.

The moment that they realize five minute conversations with your team can go a long way.

They break down a lot of walls and a lot of barriers.

But again, I'd love your take on just getting to know your people as a strategy.

Totally agree.

Totally agree.

Well, Matt, I know you're a busy individual.

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