Mika
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
It's about her.
Did she... Oh, yeah.
She heard it.
She loved it.
She was a vicious bitch.
So my grandmother, Ruth Hill, was the same.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Complete... I mean, and she... In the greatest way...
Both.
Yeah, yeah.
Good and very bad.
It's really interesting that you started talking about embarrassment at the very beginning of this conversation.
And it's so, so, so, so, so, so present as this idea of embarrassment and the good and the bad.
And so being an outsider and embarrassment obviously are connected.
When I came over to London and I went to this school, it was a disaster.
Just the bullying.
Well, you don't even know it's bullying, right?
So when you're going through it at first, especially when you're a kid, it's just in a very practical sense.
I was at a school beforehand that was really small in Paris and we had a uniform, right?