Great Company with Jamie Laing
MIKA On Being Tormented by His Teacher & Finding Safety in Music
14 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: How did Mika's childhood in Beirut shape his identity?
Coming up in this episode of Great Company.
You don't understand that this is wrong. You don't understand that it's not your fault. So I shut down. He's an idiot, he's stupid, he's a waste of space, public humiliation, bullying. I would literally put my head in between the two speakers, put music on and put it as loud as possible. What, to escape the... Just to feel, yeah, something. I mean, that's worse than bad.
I didn't realize that that was not wrong. Hi, I'm Mika and I'm in great company.
Platinum selling pop star Mika.
Mika.
Mika! Mika!
Every single thing that was important in my life is associated to embarrassment. Get out of here. My mother's obsession. Just try and get someone to sign me. She said, all right, now I'm going to drive you and we're going to go to Warner Music and you're going to get someone to listen to it. She made me gate crash Diana Ross's Christmas party and I sang to Shaka Khan.
What did that teach you?
I shouldn't even be saying this.
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Chapter 2: What traumatic experiences did Mika face with his teacher?
When you talk about your mom, your whole body opens up.
She was extraordinary. One thing that I'm so happy about is that I managed to take her on that journey that she always dreamt of.
You losing your mom must have been so tough.
Oh, it was so tough. You said, you said, when I lost my mother, it felt like losing my compass. I think we all kind of feel that at one point or another. If I don't have that compass, what am I going to do now to make sure I'm going the right way?
You feel life changing in front of you and it's quite a scary time. How did you know things were falling apart? I was... Hello everyone, my name is Jamie Lang and this is Great Company.
Great Company
Hey guys, welcome back to Great Company. Now, this episode today is going to absolutely blow your mind because we have the singer-songwriter Mika on the show. Now, Mika and I first met, we met when we hosted the Attitude Awards together. Right now, if you know what the Attitude Awards are, you're probably wondering why was I hosting it because Mika loved the podcast.
He thought we'd make great hosts together, so invited me to go and do it. I was really touched by that.
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Chapter 3: How did music provide comfort during Mika's struggles?
And since then, we've become friends. Now, this episode is amazing because Mika is an amazing storyteller and his life is fascinating for so many reasons. He grew up in Beirut and his family had to leave because the civil war broke out. His father was held hostage. Yes, hostage. Okay. And his mom took the family away and had to bring them up by herself.
Mika found music and he fell in love with music. And that was kind of his escape. He called it a hug, which you will find out all in the episode. Now, he's gone on to sell millions of albums. He was nominated for a Grammy. And so many of us have loved and listened and just fallen for everything that he's about. And this episode doesn't disappoint.
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Chapter 4: What bold steps did Mika take to pursue his music career?
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Hi, I'm Mika and I'm in Great Company. Can we just talk about the fact that we met because, uh, yes, my partner and I, who, you know, we listened to your podcast. So all those, I've not done many, hardly any, uh, you know, you were very much present. And I also then very rudely announced to everybody and you that he listens also to your wife's podcast, but to fall asleep.
Yeah, to fall asleep.
To fall asleep. I have to wait. The amount of times I wake up in the middle of the night and he's like... Like that. And your wife is somewhere in the bed. And I'm just like, can I just shut her up? And I'm just like, literally, and he's just snoring and she's somewhere in the bed. We just get her to shut up.
You have done very few podcasts.
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Chapter 5: How has Mika celebrated his sexuality through his music?
This is all new to me. Why? Why have you not done a podcast really before? I don't know.
I'm not sure if I was... Well, I wasn't invited. It's as simple as that. I'd love to tell you there's some big kind of I'm holding back. There's a whole media plan and strategy. No, it just... I wasn't really invited.
But do you find it easy? Because podcasts are quite like an intimate space, right? So you have to be quite open about things, I suppose. How's my body language? Yours is very open.
Yours is closed.
My arms are crossed. No, I'm going to open up. Okay, so how does this work? I'm in that zone at the moment. I don't know what it is, but my emotions always... here at the moment. Right. So one thing can just send me off. I can get emotional. Do you know, do you remember when, um, when things make you, I don't know how you get this, when things make you upset, the emotion goes to your throat.
That's where my emotion always goes. And I realized for so long that I always held my emotion there. So now I let it go past.
weird it's so funny how different emotions go to different parts of your body i mean and that sounds way worse than what i was intending i know what you mean what i meant was you know when it's anger it's more the back of the neck so true like almost like a dog yes right and when it's frustration it's almost your chest yeah when it's fear
It's, you know, it's always somewhere else, but you're right. When it's, when it's kind of emotion in a positive sense.
Yes.
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Chapter 6: What role does embarrassment play in Mika's life and career?
You do feel it.
And when it's, yeah. And that is such a, it goes to different parts where I never thought of. And so when you feel, yeah, nervous, anxiety, it is in the chest, but also that's excitement as well sometimes that I have. And sometimes I find it hard to.
And those old kind of adages like butterflies in your stomach and stuff. Those are real things. You do feel those butterflies. Yeah.
Yeah, I heard a great quote the other day, which I'm going to absolutely murder. But it was something like, someone said that embarrassment is an emotion we'd never explore. And we should go out and make a fool of ourselves. And it's so true, we don't.
I said that to a friend of mine two days ago. Really? So she went on holiday. And she's going through a bit of a life change at the moment. And she very clearly on this holiday that she went to a Greek island somewhere. I'm not going to say her name, but she's still going to kill me for talking about this. And she's a very good friend of mine. And she just...
And stayed there for about four weeks. And she spoke to me on the phone about how she got so embarrassed by some of her actions. She'd been in such a serious job for 10 years. And then she just went out and let her hair down. And she was feeling embarrassed about it. I was like, that's the whole point. That is exactly why you went on this trip.
That's what you needed to do something, to be embarrassed, to not think about the consequences, to recognize it, but also feel that. It's a really good thing. How many times have we been made by the things that were the most embarrassing in our adolescence? My life is made by fundamentally embarrassing moments throughout my entire life, even my adulthood. Give me some examples. When? Oh, gosh.
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Chapter 7: How did Mika's relationship with his mother influence his music?
Every single thing that was important in my life is associated to embarrassment. Get out of here. Of course. I mean, your first kiss. Isn't that a moment of embarrassment as well? Afterwards.
Yikes. You're crumbling inside. I remember the first time I lost my virginity. Yeah. Embarrassment. It was the most embarrassing thing.
Who in their right mind, anybody who says the first time I had sex, the first time I had sex, I was wonderful. It was just so great. I mean, I'm just perfect. That person is a psychopath. And you should be really afraid of that person.
The first time I ever tried to have sex, I didn't know what I was doing. Honestly, I actually... How old were you? I think I was quite young. I was about 15. Okay. Okay, well, that's illegal, but that's all right. And it was someone who was 38. What? No, but I remember I didn't know what I was doing. So I couldn't... I thought you just moved. Okay.
Like a dance move on top, which... And how did you form this opinion? Well, I... Because I didn't... You don't... I didn't get... You don't get taught anything. I wasn't taught anything. I didn't know what I was doing.
You know, when I saw the first season of Sex Education... Uh-huh. I was just, the one thing I thought was, oh gosh, these teenagers are really lucky. Because they know what they're doing. Because this is up, you can actually watch stuff like this. You know, it's so strange. We had such a different exposure. We had a very Hollywood-like exposure to sex and sex lives.
I think going back to embarrassment, embarrassment as something good is quite an extraordinary thing. So it's not just negative. For example, Um, the, uh, you know, overcoming embarrassment is important. Oh, I was, uh, 12 years old.
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Chapter 8: What insights does Mika offer about finding safety in creativity?
My mother used to make me, um, I would write songs at my, at my white piano. And then my mother bought me a mini disc machine. I remember that. Right. And also I had lots of little walkmans and stuff and a mini disc machine. And she was like, now, if I bought you this mini disc machine, you have to make demos. So of course I went and I would record my songs on the mini disc machine.
And then she'd say, all right, now we're going to transfer that to tape. So I would transfer it to a cassette. And then she's like, now you're going to draw some nice, you know, write your name proper, M-I-C-A, because that was my name. That's my real name. Well, my other real name.
And she said, all right, now I'm going to drive you in the white Toyota Previa, and we're going to go to Warner Music off High Street, Kent. Get out of here. And we're going to park there. And you're going to go in with your cassette and you're going to get someone to listen to it. I was like, Mom. She said, yeah. And so we would drive there. I always remember it was pouring with rain.
It was like 3 p.m. She had taken me out of school to do this. That was the exchange. I didn't have to go to school, but I had to go and sell my songs. And I walk into the lobby of Warner Music. You're 12 years old. 12, 13, yeah. And I have my little hand-decorated, hand-drawn MICA songs. And I go up to the secretary at the reception desk.
And I knew that my mom was staring at me through the window. And I hustled. And I had to hustle. And you know what? I was... Dying of embarrassment inside. And I knew I had no choice because I got that day off school and this was what I had to do in exchange. That's amazing. Do you know I worked my way up that building? What do you mean?
They were so embarrassed by my embarrassment and they felt so bad that they let me in and they found someone to listen to me. It was just like a runner in the A&R department on the first floor. Get out of here. And slowly, and I went back every week.
You just kept going. I kept on going. But that is tenacity. That is, I think what happens is in life is that we see the end product, right? So what we do is we see the end product the whole time, which is where we watch someone finish, like do the hundred meters and they get to the finish line or they see your success and they go, okay, I want to be there. They don't see the grind that it takes.
They don't see that little boy, 12 years old, going into Warner Music or wherever it is, getting up to the reception, having all that embarrassment come over there. They just want that end product. But actually, you have to do that hustle. Every single thing, typically most people have done, there's been this hard graft at some point that people don't get to see. And you've had that since 12th.
Oh, yeah, but it's a joyful thing at the same time. 100% course it is. It's like, you know, when you're 12 years old, you're like, oh, that was interesting. And it forms you. It kind of becomes, it's pretty cool to go home and eat your spaghetti with tomato sauce and go, I hustled my way up to the first floor. But that's unique. They told me to go away. And isn't that great? They told me to go.
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